[IAEP] OLPC tablets and Nell in the wild?

[Yama Ploskonka]

But for this last one, I will avoid crossposting on this subject unless 
something major happens (follow the Hackaday thread for more,) your 
concern for what "teacherless" might mean was addressed there this morning

"Just like with Sesame Street, The only self learning here is a child 
deciding to turn on an appliance. From there it's instructors(Human no 
AI here) doing the teaching. Just as in as in Sesame Street, and in 
bring & mortar class rooms the teachers are required to keep the lessons 
engaging to keep the kids wanting to attend class. Not that I'm saying 
this can't have value in helping disadvantaged persons, but it really is 
going to depend on many creative long distant teacher as much it will 
the kids. To hack the camera the kids had to know or figure out in some 
manner there was a camera available that could be made to function. 
Reads to me like that was a situation was set up so the kids could find 
a route to get the camera working. Part of the research?"

As to reports from former research, there are blogs around, of all 
kinds, but I have found little that would offer objective data on *what* 
activity is being used how much, etc.

There has also been research in the US, also scant data.

My own research is worst... :-(
I should write, if I can't of success, at least about the several shades 
of failure I have met. Boy, did I...


On 11/01/2012 02:10 AM, Jerry wrote:
> I'm not sure why researching on kids in a foreign country is a good thing.
>
> One of the criticisms of OLPC is that it's research on other populations.
>
> And it could keep some people/ countries from adopting XOs
>
> What ever happened to the Africa summer deployments?  I never got much 
> information back about it.  The ClassActs book sprint didn't include it...
>
> Teacherless is interesting as self directed is pretty much 
> constructionist, no? ( I'm not an education theorist, btw)
>
> ---
> Please excuse the typing, very small keyboard...
>
>
> On Oct 31, 2012, at 22:08, Mike Lee <curiouslee at gmail.com 
> <mailto:curiouslee at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>> Some other tidbits from my notes:
>>
>> 1) The Motorola Xoom WiFi laptop was passed around during the talk 
>> and I made some photos of the app drawer screens:
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/curiouslee/sets/72157631821883809/with/8109891926/
>>
>>
>> 2) The use of the impressive Funf framework from the MIT Media Lab 
>> was described where software probes were activated in the Android 
>> operating system to collect sensor and system data.
>>
>>
>> http://funf.org/
>>
>>
>> 3) The work of Dr. Maryanne Wolf of Harvard was mentioned many times. 
>> I have bookmarked her comprehensive lecture on YouTube.
>>
>>
>> The Science of the Reading Brain
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_ephYMS16Q&feature=g-crec-f
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0ySESQ5Oc4&feature=g-crec-f
>>
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 9:35 PM, Yama Ploskonka <yamaplos at gmail.com 
>> <mailto:yamaplos at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>     From a research standpoint, this decision by the Ethiopian gov is
>>     great!
>>     Doing this in English avoids all sort of "noise" from family,
>>     etc., who might "help" outside of the research.
>>     In the back of my brain I recall someone doing some research here
>>     using Klingon, for this very reason.
>>
>>     The half-full glass is in the Ethiopian kids gaining some
>>     English, which eventually will be required to do as they continue
>>     their schooling. I can't see a similar advantage for Klingon,
>>     though :-)
>>
>>
>>     On 10/31/2012 08:29 PM, Caryl Bigenho wrote:
>>>     Hi Folks,
>>>
>>>     Actually, C.Scott did post the videos (it is in 2 parts) and the
>>>     accompanying slides on his blog at
>>>     http://cananian.livejournal.com/67703.html
>>>     For anyone who missed it, it is worth the time (60-90 min?) to
>>>     watch it.
>>>
>>>     As you will see, it is a "pre-pilot" sort of a "proof of
>>>     concept" project. The children did not learn to
>>>     read, but 55% did show that they were "pre-literate" at the end
>>>     of a year based on getting 12/15
>>>     correct on a letter recognition test.
>>>
>>>     One huge obstacle to their learning to read is that, at the
>>>     request of the Ethiopian government, the
>>>     lessons are in English. The children speak only Amharic.
>>>
>>>     Long ago, when I was taking classes for ESL certification, we
>>>     were taught that children should be
>>>     taught to read in their home language first. The decoding skills
>>>     transfer if it is an alphabetic language
>>>     and probably other alphabets but not completely true for a
>>>     character based language such as Chinese.
>>>     That is probably why the Chinese government invented the
>>>     phonetic pinyin system.
>>>
>>>     Caryl
>>>
>>>     BTW... C.Scott and Chris describe the theory and methods behind
>>>     the project and data. It is a very well
>>>     designed study that meets all of the requirements for good
>>>     academic research.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>     From: cbigenho at hotmail.com <mailto:cbigenho at hotmail.com>
>>>     To: cjb at laptop.org <mailto:cjb at laptop.org>; curiouslee at gmail.com
>>>     <mailto:curiouslee at gmail.com>
>>>     Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 18:04:15 -0700
>>>     CC: iaep at lists.sugarlabs.org <mailto:iaep at lists.sugarlabs.org>;
>>>     yamaplos at gmail.com <mailto:yamaplos at gmail.com>
>>>     Subject: Re: [IAEP] OLPC tablets and Nell in the wild?
>>>
>>>     Here! Here! Cheers for Chris Ball and C. Scott Ananian (a
>>>     brand-new Daddy) who were our "house mates" at Casa Sarandi in
>>>     Montevideo.
>>>     Two great guys and supporters of Sugar Labs and OLPC in every way.
>>>
>>>     Caryl
>>>
>>>     > From: cjb at laptop.org <mailto:cjb at laptop.org>
>>>     > To: curiouslee at gmail.com <mailto:curiouslee at gmail.com>
>>>     > Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 20:41:32 -0400
>>>     > CC: IAEP at lists.sugarlabs.org
>>>     <mailto:IAEP at lists.sugarlabs.org>; yamaplos at gmail.com
>>>     <mailto:yamaplos at gmail.com>
>>>     > Subject: Re: [IAEP] OLPC tablets and Nell in the wild?
>>>     >
>>>     > Hi,
>>>     >
>>>     > On Wed, Oct 31 2012, Mike Lee wrote:
>>>     > > That experiment did not involve anyone from Sugar Labs or the
>>>     > > community. The article is based on an education panel at
>>>     EmTech 2012
>>>     > > that, for some reason, has not been posted as video yet. Check
>>>     > > here: http://www2.technologyreview.com/emtech/12/
>>>     > >
>>>     > > But Matt Keller and the OLPC Association team who ran the
>>>     project went
>>>     > > into great detail in their talks at the OLPC SF Summit over
>>>     a week
>>>     > > ago. The Livestream on the subject has been archived and is
>>>     viewable
>>>     > > at the these links:
>>>     >
>>>     > A minor point: I consider myself part of the Sugar Labs community
>>>     > and expect that C. Scott does also; maybe others from the team
>>>     too.
>>>     >
>>>     > - Chris.
>>>     > --
>>>     > Chris Ball <cjb at laptop.org> <mailto:cjb at laptop.org>
>>>     <http://printf.net/> <http://printf.net/>
>>>     > One Laptop Per Child
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