[IAEP] Need Help With SoaS! (Including Mac)

[Thomas C Gilliard]

On 11/20/2011 11:06 AM, Caryl Bigenho wrote:
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> I finally have a couple of days with access to both PCs and my Mac, so now is the time to try SoaS!  I need to be able to test it on both the Windows machines and the Mac.  After about an hour of reading confusing, conflicting, and convoluted info online, I am now thoroughly just that... confused, conflicted and convoluted!
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> This a a cry for help!  First some questions...  and, please, if at all possible I don't want to go into terminal. When I try to show this to educators at SCaLE 10 X in January that will definitely turn them off.
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> 1) Is there any possibility of using the same SoaS stick on both a PC and a Mac with Virtual Box running (on the Mac)? Is there any reason to run Virtual Box on a PC to run SoaS?  Would this be a way to get the same usb stick to work on both?
The same Soas stick will NOT boot both a PC and a MAC at this time
The Burned CD will Boot both however. The boot procedures are quite 
different
1-) PC: hit the boot key to set up USB boot sequence this varies for 
different PC manufacturers Hp it is <esc>; ACER ASPIRE ONE is <f12>
2-) MAC: Hold down the <option> key when hitting the power button and 
hold it until it shows a (Mac Hard drive) and then either a (windows 
disk) or an (EFI USB disk). use the ==> arrow keys to select it and hit 
return.

There is no need to run a Soas stick from VirtualBox. It will run native 
from virualbox if you import the 2 required files into Virtualbox
Download the VirtualBox Appliances for Sugar from
  1-) http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit#v6_Pineapple_2
or
2-) http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit#v5_Coconut_2

> 2) Some folks have reported being able to get SoaS to run on a Mac with persistent storage. Exactly how, in simple terms did they do this?  Virtual Box I assume? But, maybe I am mistaken.
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This is definitely more complicated at the moment.
To get a USB stick to boot on an intel Mac (will not work on a PC)
A 4 GB USB will work well.
Use "yum install livecd-tools" in a fedora 16 installation

look at 
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Fedora-SoaS#MacBook_Persistent_SoaS_v5_and_SoaS_v6_EFI_Boot_USB

*sudo livecd-iso-to-disk --format --efi --overlay-size-mb 300 --home-size-mb 175 --delete-home --unencrypted-home Fedora-15-x86_64-Live-SoaS.iso /dev/sd(x)*  (x)=device name

(substitute fedora-16-x86_64-live-SoaS.iso for f16 )

> 3) When I set up the Live USB creator parameters, what do you recommend for persistent storage?  I am using a 4 GB stick.
for a Normal Bootable USB of 
Soas:http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick/Installation
  in Linux: Execute, as the root user, in _one_ command with arguments, 
the following:
|./tools_livecd-iso-to-disk.sh --reset-mbr --overlay-size-mb *300* 
--home-size-mb *175* --delete-home --unencrypted-home 
*/path/to/source.iso* /dev/sd*?*1|

Also see:
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Downloads#MS_Windows
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Downloads#GNU.2FLinux
> 4) Is there an easy way to add Activities to the SoaS build? If so, does this need to be done before the stick is created or can they be added later?
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start browse (Surf) and click link for Activities from the booted 
persistent stick. Download any activities compatible with 0.94.x sugar.
> I'm sure this will be enough to get me started, but there will undoubtedly be other questions as I go along.
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I am sorry to give so many answers. The crux is that it is not easy to 
create a boot able; persistent USB of Soas. A booting, persistent MAC 
USB (EFI) is a new feature and not yet well sorted out. (It works well 
once you burn it)

For your Demonstration I recommend booting from a burned CD 
(non-persistent) or using the VirtualBox Appliances (persistent) I 
listed above.

I would be happy to send you a working SoaS Mac EFI USB and a SoaS 
Normal persistent USB for you demonstration. Please tell me where to 
send them.

You might also look into a commercial source for SoaS USB Drives: (They 
will NOT work on a MAC)
http://www.osdisc.com/cgi-bin/view.cgi/products/usb/fedora  (SoaS is way 
down on the listing)
http://www.osdisc.com/cgi-bin/view.cgi/products/usb/fedora/fedora-16-sugar-on-a-stick-8gb-usb-flash-drive-pc.html
(possibly you could have some to hand out or sell at your demo)

Cordially;

Tom Gilliard
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