[IAEP] Need Help With SoaS! (Including Mac) dd writable USB.img files

[Thomas Gilliard]

Caryl;

I know it requires using the terminal, but these 2 Soas-v5-Coconut .img 
files may be the easiest way to build a number of booting SoaS USB 
sticks for your presentation.
The instructions (actual screen shots of terminal of the writing to the 
USB's are included in these pages)

The command in terminal can be repeated for each new USB that is inserted
Note that the EFI 1 GB USB is written in less than 4 minutes.

1-) PC
    
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Fedora-SoaS#dd_writable_2GB_USB_Soas-v5-Coconut-USB_.img

2-) Macbook EFI Boot:
    
http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Fedora-SoaS#dd_writable_1_GB_EFI_Boot_.28MAC.29_USB_Soas-v5-Coconut-USB_.img

Just be sure to enter "mount" in terminal to see the device name for 
your USB ie: /dev/sdb; /dev/sdc; /dev/sdc......   It is VERY IMPORTANT 
to have this set correctly.

Cordailly;

Tom Gilliard
satellit_ on #sugar IRC

On 11/20/2011 03:38 PM, Thomas C Gilliard wrote:
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> On 11/20/2011 11:06 AM, Caryl Bigenho wrote:
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>> Hi Folks...
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>> I finally have a couple of days with access to both PCs and my Mac, 
>> so now is the time to try SoaS!  I need to be able to test it on both 
>> the Windows machines and the Mac.  After about an hour of reading 
>> confusing, conflicting, and convoluted info online, I am now 
>> thoroughly just that... confused, conflicted and convoluted!
>>
>>
>> This a a cry for help!  First some questions...  and, please, if at 
>> all possible I don't want to go into terminal. When I try to show 
>> this to educators at SCaLE 10 X in January that will definitely turn 
>> them off.
>>
>>
>> 1) Is there any possibility of using the same SoaS stick on both a PC 
>> and a Mac with Virtual Box running (on the Mac)? Is there any reason 
>> to run Virtual Box on a PC to run SoaS?  Would this be a way to get 
>> the same usb stick to work on both?
> The same Soas stick will NOT boot both a PC and a MAC at this time
> The Burned CD will Boot both however. The boot procedures are quite 
> different
> 1-) PC: hit the boot key to set up USB boot sequence this varies for 
> different PC manufacturers Hp it is <esc>; ACER ASPIRE ONE is <f12>
> 2-) MAC: Hold down the <option> key when hitting the power button and 
> hold it until it shows a (Mac Hard drive) and then either a (windows 
> disk) or an (EFI USB disk). use the ==> arrow keys to select it and 
> hit return.
>
> There is no need to run a Soas stick from VirtualBox. It will run 
> native from virualbox if you import the 2 required files into Virtualbox
> Download the VirtualBox Appliances for Sugar from
>  1-) http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit#v6_Pineapple_2
> or
> 2-) http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit#v5_Coconut_2
>
>> 2) Some folks have reported being able to get SoaS to run on a Mac 
>> with persistent storage. Exactly how, in simple terms did they do 
>> this?  Virtual Box I assume? But, maybe I am mistaken.
>>
> This is definitely more complicated at the moment.
> To get a USB stick to boot on an intel Mac (will not work on a PC)
> A 4 GB USB will work well.
> Use "yum install livecd-tools" in a fedora 16 installation
>
> look at 
> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Fedora-SoaS#MacBook_Persistent_SoaS_v5_and_SoaS_v6_EFI_Boot_USB
>
> *sudo livecd-iso-to-disk --format --efi --overlay-size-mb 300 
> --home-size-mb 175 --delete-home --unencrypted-home 
> Fedora-15-x86_64-Live-SoaS.iso /dev/sd(x)*  (x)=device name
>
> (substitute fedora-16-x86_64-live-SoaS.iso for f16 )
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>> 3) When I set up the Live USB creator parameters, what do you 
>> recommend for persistent storage?  I am using a 4 GB stick.
> for a Normal Bootable USB of 
> Soas:http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick/Installation
>  in Linux: Execute, as the root user, in _one_ command with arguments, 
> the following:
> |./tools_livecd-iso-to-disk.sh --reset-mbr --overlay-size-mb *300* 
> --home-size-mb *175* --delete-home --unencrypted-home 
> */path/to/source.iso* /dev/sd*?*1|
>
> Also see:
> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Downloads#MS_Windows
> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Downloads#GNU.2FLinux
>> 4) Is there an easy way to add Activities to the SoaS build? If so, 
>> does this need to be done before the stick is created or can they be 
>> added later?
>>
> start browse (Surf) and click link for Activities from the booted 
> persistent stick. Download any activities compatible with 0.94.x sugar.
>> I'm sure this will be enough to get me started, but there will 
>> undoubtedly be other questions as I go along.
>>
>>
> I am sorry to give so many answers. The crux is that it is not easy to 
> create a boot able; persistent USB of Soas. A booting, persistent MAC 
> USB (EFI) is a new feature and not yet well sorted out. (It works well 
> once you burn it)
>
> For your Demonstration I recommend booting from a burned CD 
> (non-persistent) or using the VirtualBox Appliances (persistent) I 
> listed above.
>
> I would be happy to send you a working SoaS Mac EFI USB and a SoaS 
> Normal persistent USB for you demonstration. Please tell me where to 
> send them.
>
> You might also look into a commercial source for SoaS USB Drives: 
> (They will NOT work on a MAC)
> http://www.osdisc.com/cgi-bin/view.cgi/products/usb/fedora  (SoaS is 
> way down on the listing)
> http://www.osdisc.com/cgi-bin/view.cgi/products/usb/fedora/fedora-16-sugar-on-a-stick-8gb-usb-flash-drive-pc.html 
>
> (possibly you could have some to hand out or sell at your demo)
>
> Cordially;
>
> Tom Gilliard
>> Thanks!
>>
>>
>> Caryl
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