<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type"> </head> <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff"> On 11/20/2011 11:06 AM, Caryl Bigenho wrote: <blockquote cite="mid:SNT112-W13E1EB3737EA53899A499CCCA0@phx.gbl" type="cite"> <pre wrap=""> Hi Folks... I finally have a couple of days with access to both PCs and my Mac, so now is the time to try SoaS! I need to be able to test it on both the Windows machines and the Mac. After about an hour of reading confusing, conflicting, and convoluted info online, I am now thoroughly just that... confused, conflicted and convoluted! This a a cry for help! First some questions... and, please, if at all possible I don't want to go into terminal. When I try to show this to educators at SCaLE 10 X in January that will definitely turn them off. 1) Is there any possibility of using the same SoaS stick on both a PC and a Mac with Virtual Box running (on the Mac)? Is there any reason to run Virtual Box on a PC to run SoaS? Would this be a way to get the same usb stick to work on both? </pre> </blockquote> The same Soas stick will NOT boot both a PC and a MAC at this time The Burned CD will Boot both however. The boot procedures are quite different 1-) PC: hit the boot key to set up USB boot sequence this varies for different PC manufacturers Hp it is <esc>; ACER ASPIRE ONE is <f12> 2-) MAC: Hold down the <option> key when hitting the power button and hold it until it shows a (Mac Hard drive) and then either a (windows disk) or an (EFI USB disk). use the ==> arrow keys to select it and hit return. There is no need to run a Soas stick from VirtualBox. It will run native from virualbox if you import the 2 required files into Virtualbox Download the VirtualBox Appliances for Sugar from 1-) <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit#v6_Pineapple_2">http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit#v6_Pineapple_2</a> or 2-) <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit#v5_Coconut_2">http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit#v5_Coconut_2</a> <blockquote cite="mid:SNT112-W13E1EB3737EA53899A499CCCA0@phx.gbl" type="cite"> <pre wrap=""> 2) Some folks have reported being able to get SoaS to run on a Mac with persistent storage. Exactly how, in simple terms did they do this? Virtual Box I assume? But, maybe I am mistaken. </pre> </blockquote> This is definitely more complicated at the moment. To get a USB stick to boot on an intel Mac (will not work on a PC) A 4 GB USB will work well. Use "yum install livecd-tools" in a fedora 16 installation look at <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Fedora-SoaS#MacBook_Persistent_SoaS_v5_and_SoaS_v6_EFI_Boot_USB">http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Fedora-SoaS#MacBook_Persistent_SoaS_v5_and_SoaS_v6_EFI_Boot_USB</a> <pre>sudo livecd-iso-to-disk --format --efi --overlay-size-mb 300 --home-size-mb 175 --delete-home --unencrypted-home Fedora-15-x86_64-Live-SoaS.iso /dev/sd(x) (x)=device name (substitute fedora-16-x86_64-live-SoaS.iso for f16 )</pre> <blockquote cite="mid:SNT112-W13E1EB3737EA53899A499CCCA0@phx.gbl" type="cite"> <pre wrap=""> 3) When I set up the Live USB creator parameters, what do you recommend for persistent storage? I am using a 4 GB stick. </pre> </blockquote> for a Normal Bootable USB of Soas:<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick/Installation">http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick/Installation</a> in Linux: Execute, as the root user, in one command with arguments, the following: <code>./tools_livecd-iso-to-disk.sh --reset-mbr --overlay-size-mb 300 --home-size-mb 175 --delete-home --unencrypted-home /path/to/source.iso /dev/sd?1</code> Also see: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Downloads#MS_Windows">http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Downloads#MS_Windows</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Downloads#GNU.2FLinux">http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Downloads#GNU.2FLinux</a> <blockquote cite="mid:SNT112-W13E1EB3737EA53899A499CCCA0@phx.gbl" type="cite"> <pre wrap="">4) Is there an easy way to add Activities to the SoaS build? If so, does this need to be done before the stick is created or can they be added later? </pre> </blockquote> start browse (Surf) and click link for Activities from the booted persistent stick. Download any activities compatible with 0.94.x sugar. <blockquote cite="mid:SNT112-W13E1EB3737EA53899A499CCCA0@phx.gbl" type="cite"> <pre wrap=""> I'm sure this will be enough to get me started, but there will undoubtedly be other questions as I go along. </pre> </blockquote> I am sorry to give so many answers. The crux is that it is not easy to create a boot able; persistent USB of Soas. A booting, persistent MAC USB (EFI) is a new feature and not yet well sorted out. (It works well once you burn it) For your Demonstration I recommend booting from a burned CD (non-persistent) or using the VirtualBox Appliances (persistent) I listed above. I would be happy to send you a working SoaS Mac EFI USB and a SoaS Normal persistent USB for you demonstration. Please tell me where to send them. You might also look into a commercial source for SoaS USB Drives: (They will NOT work on a MAC) <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.osdisc.com/cgi-bin/view.cgi/products/usb/fedora">http://www.osdisc.com/cgi-bin/view.cgi/products/usb/fedora</a> (SoaS is way down on the listing) <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.osdisc.com/cgi-bin/view.cgi/products/usb/fedora/fedora-16-sugar-on-a-stick-8gb-usb-flash-drive-pc.html">http://www.osdisc.com/cgi-bin/view.cgi/products/usb/fedora/fedora-16-sugar-on-a-stick-8gb-usb-flash-drive-pc.html</a> (possibly you could have some to hand out or sell at your demo) Cordially; Tom Gilliard <blockquote cite="mid:SNT112-W13E1EB3737EA53899A499CCCA0@phx.gbl" type="cite"> <pre wrap="">Thanks! Caryl </pre> <pre wrap=""> <fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset> _______________________________________________ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org">IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep">http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep</a> </pre> </blockquote> </body> </html>