[Sugar-devel] motion for a new mission statement

James Cameron quozl at laptop.org
Tue Apr 25 02:10:18 EDT 2017

Yes, it is not HTML.  It's complicated.  Follow the README.md file
and start a local test server.

Or, if the change is straightforward and doesn't cross any functional
boundaries of the file, fork the repository on GitHub and push to your
fork, and make a pull-request.

On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 02:02:11PM +0800, Tony Anderson wrote:
> Hi, James
> I cloned the repo and made a change. However, I was unable to test
> the effect because
> index.html in the repo is not valid html.
> Tony
> On 04/25/2017 09:35 AM, James Cameron wrote:
> >On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 09:29:50AM +0800, Tony Anderson wrote:
> >>I do have access to the wiki. However, the relevant pages are linked
> >>from the www.sugarlabs.org. I don't have access to that page.
> >You do have access
> >https://github.com/sugarlabs/www-sugarlabs
> >
> >>I believe the link to http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Downloads should
> >>be at the top of the www.sugarlabs.org, e.g. next to social help.
> >>
> >>While I have permission to modify the Downloads page, I think I need
> >>help from people who know more about the technical issues.
> >>
> >>What I could perhaps do is prepare a prototype.
> >No, use a pull-request.
> >
> >See also the identified issues with the site;
> >https://github.com/sugarlabs/www-sugarlabs/issues
> >
> >>Tony
> >>
> >>On 04/25/2017 06:04 AM, James Cameron wrote:
> >>>On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 05:10:36PM +0800, Tony Anderson wrote:
> >>>>Hey, I think we are making progress! I appreciate your loyalty to
> >>>>your employer.
> >>>>
> >>>>Thanks for clarifying that when I installed Sugar (sucrose) on
> >>>>Ubuntu I was installing the Debian package.
> >>>>
> >>>>My problem with SOAS is this page;
> >>>>http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick/Installation. It
> >>>>starts out by requiring the user to install Fedora to set up the
> >>>>livecd tools.
> >>>(a) yes, it's not the best guidance,
> >>>
> >>>(b) it's a Wiki, so you are also responsible for editing it.
> >>>
> >>>>The pages for Debian, Ubuntu, and Fedora are much improved. The
> >>>>Debian on RPi3 needs an update.
> >>>Oh, wow, thanks, I wasn't aware of Debian_on_rpi3; what a useless page
> >>>of links.  I've replaced it with a redirect to the current Raspbian
> >>>page.
> >>>
> >>>But I'm not your Wiki editing slave, get working on it yourself.
> >>>
> >>>>Visitors to the sugarlabs site would
> >>>>appreciate a succinct and current list of supported software (as you
> >>>>do at http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Releases), the 'Supported Systems'
> >>>>page was last touched in 2012.
> >>>No, you've missed that it includes the Supported distributions page,
> >>>which is updated regularly.  MediaWiki software has shown you the 2012
> >>>change date of the outer page, not the inner page.
> >>>
> >>>You also missed that it shows Ubuntu 17.04 and Sugar 0.110, both of
> >>>which are post-2012.
> >>>
> >>>>I find dd to be a simple, no fuss, no muss way to make the usb
> >>>>stick.
> >>>dd is also a quick way to destroy data on a disk.
> >>>
> >>>>However, the web page could point to gui tools.
> >>>If you mean the
> >>>http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick/Installation page, yes.
> >>>
> >>>Fedora SoaS Desktop links to documentation from Fedora;
> >>>https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/20/html/Burning_ISO_images_to_disc/
> >>>and does point to good tool choices, though it was last updated for
> >>>Fedora 20 and is dated 2013.
> >>>
> >>>Sugar Labs Wiki documentation is more ad-hoc, a mix of old and new,
> >>>from mainly the perspective of Thomas and Frederick; and recommends a
> >>>different method to Fedora.  It was updated in late 2016.
> >>>
> >>>>The real goal is to promote the idea that Sugar is available to
> >>>>non-technical visitors for them to install on their own computer.
> >>>I'm looking forward to Sugar being available to non-technical visitors
> >>>for them to install on their own computer ... but I haven't seen that
> >>>happen yet.
> >>>
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