[Sugar-devel] motion for a new mission statement

Tony Anderson tony_anderson at usa.net
Tue Apr 25 02:02:11 EDT 2017

Hi, James

I cloned the repo and made a change. However, I was unable to test the 
effect because
index.html in the repo is not valid html.


On 04/25/2017 09:35 AM, James Cameron wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 09:29:50AM +0800, Tony Anderson wrote:
>> I do have access to the wiki. However, the relevant pages are linked
>> from the www.sugarlabs.org. I don't have access to that page.
> You do have access
> https://github.com/sugarlabs/www-sugarlabs
>> I believe the link to http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Downloads should
>> be at the top of the www.sugarlabs.org, e.g. next to social help.
>> While I have permission to modify the Downloads page, I think I need
>> help from people who know more about the technical issues.
>> What I could perhaps do is prepare a prototype.
> No, use a pull-request.
> See also the identified issues with the site;
> https://github.com/sugarlabs/www-sugarlabs/issues
>> Tony
>> On 04/25/2017 06:04 AM, James Cameron wrote:
>>> On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 05:10:36PM +0800, Tony Anderson wrote:
>>>> Hey, I think we are making progress! I appreciate your loyalty to
>>>> your employer.
>>>> Thanks for clarifying that when I installed Sugar (sucrose) on
>>>> Ubuntu I was installing the Debian package.
>>>> My problem with SOAS is this page;
>>>> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick/Installation. It
>>>> starts out by requiring the user to install Fedora to set up the
>>>> livecd tools.
>>> (a) yes, it's not the best guidance,
>>> (b) it's a Wiki, so you are also responsible for editing it.
>>>> The pages for Debian, Ubuntu, and Fedora are much improved. The
>>>> Debian on RPi3 needs an update.
>>> Oh, wow, thanks, I wasn't aware of Debian_on_rpi3; what a useless page
>>> of links.  I've replaced it with a redirect to the current Raspbian
>>> page.
>>> But I'm not your Wiki editing slave, get working on it yourself.
>>>> Visitors to the sugarlabs site would
>>>> appreciate a succinct and current list of supported software (as you
>>>> do at http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Releases), the 'Supported Systems'
>>>> page was last touched in 2012.
>>> No, you've missed that it includes the Supported distributions page,
>>> which is updated regularly.  MediaWiki software has shown you the 2012
>>> change date of the outer page, not the inner page.
>>> You also missed that it shows Ubuntu 17.04 and Sugar 0.110, both of
>>> which are post-2012.
>>>> I find dd to be a simple, no fuss, no muss way to make the usb
>>>> stick.
>>> dd is also a quick way to destroy data on a disk.
>>>> However, the web page could point to gui tools.
>>> If you mean the
>>> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick/Installation page, yes.
>>> Fedora SoaS Desktop links to documentation from Fedora;
>>> https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/20/html/Burning_ISO_images_to_disc/
>>> and does point to good tool choices, though it was last updated for
>>> Fedora 20 and is dated 2013.
>>> Sugar Labs Wiki documentation is more ad-hoc, a mix of old and new,
>> >from mainly the perspective of Thomas and Frederick; and recommends a
>>> different method to Fedora.  It was updated in late 2016.
>>>> The real goal is to promote the idea that Sugar is available to
>>>> non-technical visitors for them to install on their own computer.
>>> I'm looking forward to Sugar being available to non-technical visitors
>>> for them to install on their own computer ... but I haven't seen that
>>> happen yet.
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