[Sugar-devel] Default Collaboration Server

Tony Anderson tony_anderson at usa.net
Mon Jan 18 18:17:21 EST 2016

This is probably a correct analysis for those in the US with online 
broadband connection. However, at deployments which depend on the school 
server (those without internet access), gabble is needed to enable all 
XOs to collaborate. One of the first tests at a deployment is to ensure 
that XOs connected to the schoolserver are visible to each other (i.e. 
that gabble is working and not salut).

Such a change needs a more thorough study. Should we limit collaboration 
to XOs with a common router (partition the LAN)? Does collaboration with 
salut work for XOs connected to the school server? Is it a reasonable 
restriction at a deployment that only some XOs can chat?


On 01/18/2016 12:14 PM, Sam P. wrote:
> Hi All,
> Currently Sugar defaults to using "jabber.sugarlabs.org 
> <http://jabber.sugarlabs.org>" as a collaboration server in Sugar on a 
> Stick and other GNU distros (fedora, debian, etc.).  However, I 
> propose that we change the default (this release!) to use the local 
> network (telepathy salut).  This is a feature is that is already in 
> sugar, and is used on XOs and normal computers.
> Why?
> * Better activity support.  Tubes are supported by salut, but not by 
> gabble (server based collab.).  This means that activities that 
> haven't been ported this cycle (most of them) will still work under 
> salut (proposed default), but will not work under gabble (current default)
> * More contextual neighbourhood view.  You only see people on your 
> local WiFi (or wired) network.  This is more helpful for finding your 
> friends than the trawling the crowded jabber.sugarlabs.org 
> <http://jabber.sugarlabs.org> neighbourhood.
> * More features.  File transfers work via salut, but not via 
> jabber.sugarlabs.org <http://jabber.sugarlabs.org>
> * More speed and less lag. Jabber.sugarlabs.org 
> <http://Jabber.sugarlabs.org> is hosted in the mit.  While that is 
> good if you are a student at the mit, it is very laggy if you are in 
> say Australia.  I prefer near instant collaberation provided by my 
> local network.  Even if you are at the mit, your wifi router is still 
> closer than jabber.sugarlabs.org <http://jabber.sugarlabs.org> (hopefully)
> * Privacy.  Users (specifically kids) aren't by default sharing their 
> names and colours online and inviting others to send them things.
> Is this ok?  Will defaulting to use salut (local network) cause any 
> issues for anyone?  Is this ok for the 108 cycle?
> Thanks,
> Sam
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