[Sugar-devel] Python is good - don't waste time (was Re: The future of Sugar on XO-1s)

[Dave Crossland]

Hi Tony

Don't get me wrong, what I am excited about is being able to buy up
Amazon's subsidised hardware and rip out their Android distro and put in a
clean one. I'm not sure about putting in a GNU/Linux, a clean Android/Linux
distro seems more likely to go smoothly.

As I understood them, there were some GSOC proposals for making Sugarizer
into an Android shell, that would be make this strategy even more viable.


On 6 April 2016 at 23:46, Tony Anderson <tony_anderson at usa.net> wrote:

> Actually not. The problem is that I really believe the deployed system
> needs to be free, meaning the deployment needs to pay no subscription fees
> or royalties to continue to use the device. Microsoft (and other vendors)
> suffer from the buy once model. All of them are trying to find a way to get
> a stable revenue stream as the telecoms do. Technically, the 'cloud' is a
> sham. There is no way to provide a computer which is 50 times faster than
> the one in your hand. So having users execute code on a server is a
> non-starter. HTML is ok because the work is done on the client. Cloud
> storage is ok because the server action is as a file server, low processor
> overhead. Formatting Word documents on a server is not economical - unless
> that is your source of revenue.
>
> Durability yes, but the price premium is 2x. There will (and probably are)
> a plethora of 'head start' computers with such packages. However, with
> Sugar and a school server, we already put them to shame.
>
> Tony
>
>
> On 04/07/2016 11:24 AM, Dave Crossland wrote:
>
>
> On 6 April 2016 at 20:49, Tony Anderson <tony_anderson at usa.net> wrote:
>
>> Our need is a deployable device - one that can be purchased in quantities
>> of 30+.
>> If we develop a technique to install Sugar on such a device, that can be
>> done for all of them at
>> the time of deployment. So, if anyone can find a suitable tablet with a
>> manageable price (less than $100)
>> and can install Sugar on it from a usb drive - it would be a boon.
>>
>
> :D
>
>
>> Sora Edwards-Thro is planning a deployment with the $50 Kindle Fire (an
>> Android derivative). Her intent
>> is to use Sugarizer. I would recommend adding the GCompris Android
>> version. What she really needs is
>> a Sugarized version of the WriteBook activity. So far, no one has stepped
>> up to take that on. Naturally, the strategic
>> interest is how well the Kindle supports learning.
>>
>
> Fascinating!
>
> I see
> http://gizmodo.com/amazons-50-fire-tablet-is-the-impulse-buy-that-never-e-1731275123
> from 2015-09-17:
>
>
> If what you’re really looking for is durability, though, the $100 Fire
> Kids Edition is the one you probably want. Big, lifeproof rubber bumper, a
> 2-year no-questions-asked replacement policy, a kid-friendly web browser
> you can turn off or add whitelisted sites to, and 10,000 pre-approved
> titles for junior to safely watch.
>
>
>
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Cheers
Dave
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