[Sugar-devel] Python is good - don't waste time (was Re: The future of Sugar on XO-1s)

Walter Bender walter.bender at gmail.com
Wed Apr 6 10:41:07 EDT 2016

On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 10:09 AM, Dave Crossland <dave at lab6.com> wrote:

> On 6 April 2016 at 09:17, Walter Bender <walter.bender at gmail.com> wrote:
>> the service model that is inherent to the web is really problematic from
>> the point of view of children's privacy, security, and freedom.
> Nawwwww, it ain't inherent to the model! :)

There is the model and there is how the model is being implemented in

> Off the top of my head, here are 3 projects that adapt the software
> freedom movement to the model:
> http://sandstorm.io
> https://owncloud.org
> https://unhosted.org

UnHosted is pretty interesting.

> "There is no cloud, just other people's computers," says the FSFE.
> "There is no cloud, just other people's computers - that you can rent," I
> say.
> Some people on this list surely own their own home, free and clear.
> Many more people on this list surely rent a home.
> People who rent a container instance on someone else's computer and run
> libre software on it are enjoying privacy, security and freedom.

I agree. If we design for the Cloud as if it were simply an extension of
the local file system we are "renting" then it is not much different than
what we have right now. But as soon as we start relying on remote services,
most of which as not free/libre, we run into the problems I was alluding
to. So it behooves us to show how it can be done in a way that respects


Walter Bender
Sugar Labs
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