[Sugar-devel] Merging sugarlabs.org website to new technology

[Sam P.]

Hi Tymon,

It does look clean and modern.  But this is a landing page, it has to
convey the message of sugar.  The websites need a personality to do that.
The bootstrap theme won't do that.

I will implement Sugar colors and random Sugar logo image. Many people like
this idea.

Activity stream also shouldn't be something really hard to implement. I
gonna work on this tomorrow.I can add also embeeded Sugarizer, what is your
opinion which activity should we mainly present?

 IDK... But you don't have to put all that stuff in!  It would probably get
easily overloaded with content then!

I am not sure about videos... I don't have them, recording will take some
time,... Do you have any place where can I find already recorded movies?
Btw your idea to put it inside XO frame is really nice and interesting...

 Maybe you could use GTK-RecordMyDesktop

What is your exact idea about pictures? Should we place them everywhere or
only in gallery? Currently we put ~2 thumbnails with link to gallery on
every one page. Also - any ideas where can I find that kind of photos?

 Pictures can be used as background images for sections of the site.  I
will find an example.

I don't understand your message about consistent with other web proporties,
but I agree you activity-2 website is nice (I embed it in Activities
section if my project).

 Right now every sugar site looks different.  Maybe we could have some
visual clarity.

Thanks,
Sam

Looking forward your reply.

Best,
Tymon

ps sorry I cant sign this message, i dont have gpg on phone

On Sun 22 Feb 2015 at 00:27 Sam P. <sam.parkinson3 at gmail.com> wrote:


 Hi Tymon,

On Sun Feb 22 2015 at 2:56:21 am Tymon Radzik <dwgipk at gmail.com> wrote:


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Hello,

I talked with Walter Bender about refactoring and improving current http://
<http://sugarlabs.org/>sugarlabs.org/ <http://sugarlabs.org/> website and
decided to work on this project.

I have created website basing on Jekyll (http:// <http://jekyllrb.com/>
jekyllrb.com/ <http://jekyllrb.com/>), Liquid templates and Github Pages.
It is possible to see it here: http:// <http://people.sugarlabs.org/~tymon>
people.sugarlabs.org <http://people.sugarlabs.org/~tymon>/~tymon
<http://people.sugarlabs.org/~tymon> (I know "Gallery" and "Press" sections
don't work, I am currently working on this matter). My source code is
avaliable in this repo - https
<https://github.com/walterbender/www-sugarlabs/pull/1>://
<https://github.com/walterbender/www-sugarlabs/pull/1>github.com
<https://github.com/walterbender/www-sugarlabs/pull/1>/walterbender/
<https://github.com/walterbender/www-sugarlabs/pull/1>www-sugarlabs
<https://github.com/walterbender/www-sugarlabs/pull/1>/pull/1
<https://github.com/walterbender/www-sugarlabs/pull/1> (giving link to pull
request as my changes are not merged yet).

I would like to as you for your suggestions about this website, info what
should be fixed/improved/added.


 I really like the idea of using a static site generator (less server
load!).

I like the idea of modernizing the website.  It looks like a dodgy
BTC/illegal website now IMHO, so we should really change it.

However, I'm sure about replacing it with a website that is basically the
default theme of jekyll.  I think that you need to start with a design idea
about where we should go with the site.   Here are a few suggestions:

* Embed sugarizer/turtlejs?  That is the easiest way show people what sugar
is!

* Pictures?  Happy pics of pople using sugar are always  good for a landing
page (www. is really just a big ad for sugar, all real info is on the wiki?)

* Use sugar colors.  Maybe this will help?  https
<https://github.com/SAMdroid-apps/aslo/blob/master/web/css/_colors.sass>://
<https://github.com/SAMdroid-apps/aslo/blob/master/web/css/_colors.sass>
github.com
<https://github.com/SAMdroid-apps/aslo/blob/master/web/css/_colors.sass>
/SAMdroid-apps/
<https://github.com/SAMdroid-apps/aslo/blob/master/web/css/_colors.sass>aslo
<https://github.com/SAMdroid-apps/aslo/blob/master/web/css/_colors.sass>
/blob/master/web/
<https://github.com/SAMdroid-apps/aslo/blob/master/web/css/_colors.sass>css
<https://github.com/SAMdroid-apps/aslo/blob/master/web/css/_colors.sass>/_
<https://github.com/SAMdroid-apps/aslo/blob/master/web/css/_colors.sass>
colors.sass
<https://github.com/SAMdroid-apps/aslo/blob/master/web/css/_colors.sass>

* Consistent with other web properties?  Here is my idea of how we should
be consistent, but this is a topic for discussion:  https
<https://activities-2.sugarlabs.org/>://
<https://activities-2.sugarlabs.org/>activities-2.sugarlabs.org/
<https://activities-2.sugarlabs.org/>

* Live activity stream?  Could we have a live activity stream from ASLO +
SocialHelp + Mailing List + Wiki?  That would be really cool!

* Video demos?  Having little videos embed transparently in the site is
very nice on the android design site:  https
<https://developer.android.com/design/building-blocks/tabs.html>://
<https://developer.android.com/design/building-blocks/tabs.html>
developer.android.com
<https://developer.android.com/design/building-blocks/tabs.html>/design/
<https://developer.android.com/design/building-blocks/tabs.html>
building-blocks
<https://developer.android.com/design/building-blocks/tabs.html>/
<https://developer.android.com/design/building-blocks/tabs.html>tabs.html
<https://developer.android.com/design/building-blocks/tabs.html>  Possibly
we could have demos inside a XO frame or a desktop monitor



There is also a case of hosting this website. We can use GitHub pages with
their CDN, etc. (we'll just have to change DNSes of domain) or host website
on one of our machines (and e.g. auto-pulling from repository) -
instrunctions for sysadmins are here: https
<https://help.github.com/articles/using-jekyll-with-pages/>://
<https://help.github.com/articles/using-jekyll-with-pages/>help.github.com
<https://help.github.com/articles/using-jekyll-with-pages/>/articles/
<https://help.github.com/articles/using-jekyll-with-pages/>
using-jekyll-with-pages
<https://help.github.com/articles/using-jekyll-with-pages/>/
<https://help.github.com/articles/using-jekyll-with-pages/> . Advice from
somebody from Infrastructure Team is really welcome.


 I don't think Github can do TLS for our domain, so I would just keep it on
sunjammer.  + I haven't read great things about their "CDN".  Setting up a
pulling & building webhook is very easy.  But deployment is a long time
away :)  Just make a nice site and we can deploy easy :)



Thanks,

Sam



Regards,

Tymon

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