[Sugar-devel] Merging sugarlabs.org website to new technology

[Tymon Radzik]

Hello Sam,

thank you for your suggestions, as I told I will implement at least some of
them (I mean activity log and sugarizer).
I will think also which activity should we present (again, all suggestions
are welcome!).

I like Bootstrap, I also think its default templates are quite nice. I
understand landing page should show something "special" and I agree with
that. Currently, to make this website more personalised for Sugar I added
this random-color logo and favicon and also loading bar with our logo. I am
still waiting for suggestions what can I customize more (maybe background
image or different navbar color?).

That is not good that every Sugar website looks differently. They also
should base on one readable and nice template (maybe without wiki...) or at
least have some common points, navigation, etc. We can try to create some
kind of this nice template here and then apply it to other sites.

I will probably use GTKRecordMyScreen, I asked because I just thought some
of them are already recorded.

Best,
Tymon

Sun Feb 22 2015 at 22:09:39 użytkownik Sam P.
sam.parkinson3 at gmail.com> napisał:

Hi Tymon,
>
> It does look clean and modern.  But this is a landing page, it has to
> convey the message of sugar.  The websites need a personality to do that.
> The bootstrap theme won't do that.
>
> I will implement Sugar colors and random Sugar logo image. Many people
> like this idea.
>
> Activity stream also shouldn't be something really hard to implement. I
> gonna work on this tomorrow.I can add also embeeded Sugarizer, what is your
> opinion which activity should we mainly present?
>
>  IDK... But you don't have to put all that stuff in!  It would probably
> get easily overloaded with content then!
>
> I am not sure about videos... I don't have them, recording will take some
> time,... Do you have any place where can I find already recorded movies?
> Btw your idea to put it inside XO frame is really nice and interesting...
>
>  Maybe you could use GTK-RecordMyDesktop
>
> What is your exact idea about pictures? Should we place them everywhere or
> only in gallery? Currently we put ~2 thumbnails with link to gallery on
> every one page. Also - any ideas where can I find that kind of photos?
>
>  Pictures can be used as background images for sections of the site.  I
> will find an example.
>
> I don't understand your message about consistent with other web
> proporties, but I agree you activity-2 website is nice (I embed it in
> Activities section if my project).
>
>  Right now every sugar site looks different.  Maybe we could have some
> visual clarity.
>
> Thanks,
> Sam
>
> Looking forward your reply.
>
> Best,
> Tymon
>
> ps sorry I cant sign this message, i dont have gpg on phone
>
> On Sun 22 Feb 2015 at 00:27 Sam P. <sam.parkinson3 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>  Hi Tymon,
>
> On Sun Feb 22 2015 at 2:56:21 am Tymon Radzik <dwgipk at gmail.com> wrote:
>
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> Hello,
>
> I talked with Walter Bender about refactoring and improving current
> http:// <http://sugarlabs.org/>sugarlabs.org/ <http://sugarlabs.org/>
> website and decided to work on this project.
>
> I have created website basing on Jekyll (http:// <http://jekyllrb.com/>
> jekyllrb.com/ <http://jekyllrb.com/>), Liquid templates and Github Pages.
> It is possible to see it here: http://
> <http://people.sugarlabs.org/~tymon>people.sugarlabs.org
> <http://people.sugarlabs.org/~tymon>/~tymon
> <http://people.sugarlabs.org/~tymon> (I know "Gallery" and "Press"
> sections don't work, I am currently working on this matter). My source code
> is avaliable in this repo - https
> <https://github.com/walterbender/www-sugarlabs/pull/1>://
> <https://github.com/walterbender/www-sugarlabs/pull/1>github.com
> <https://github.com/walterbender/www-sugarlabs/pull/1>/walterbender/
> <https://github.com/walterbender/www-sugarlabs/pull/1>www-sugarlabs
> <https://github.com/walterbender/www-sugarlabs/pull/1>/pull/1
> <https://github.com/walterbender/www-sugarlabs/pull/1> (giving link to
> pull request as my changes are not merged yet).
>
> I would like to as you for your suggestions about this website, info what
> should be fixed/improved/added.
>
>
>  I really like the idea of using a static site generator (less server
> load!).
>
> I like the idea of modernizing the website.  It looks like a dodgy
> BTC/illegal website now IMHO, so we should really change it.
>
> However, I'm sure about replacing it with a website that is basically the
> default theme of jekyll.  I think that you need to start with a design idea
> about where we should go with the site.   Here are a few suggestions:
>
> * Embed sugarizer/turtlejs?  That is the easiest way show people what
> sugar is!
>
> * Pictures?  Happy pics of pople using sugar are always  good for a
> landing page (www. is really just a big ad for sugar, all real info is on
> the wiki?)
>
> * Use sugar colors.  Maybe this will help?  https
> <https://github.com/SAMdroid-apps/aslo/blob/master/web/css/_colors.sass>
> ://
> <https://github.com/SAMdroid-apps/aslo/blob/master/web/css/_colors.sass>
> github.com
> <https://github.com/SAMdroid-apps/aslo/blob/master/web/css/_colors.sass>
> /SAMdroid-apps/
> <https://github.com/SAMdroid-apps/aslo/blob/master/web/css/_colors.sass>
> aslo
> <https://github.com/SAMdroid-apps/aslo/blob/master/web/css/_colors.sass>
> /blob/master/web/
> <https://github.com/SAMdroid-apps/aslo/blob/master/web/css/_colors.sass>
> css
> <https://github.com/SAMdroid-apps/aslo/blob/master/web/css/_colors.sass>/_
> <https://github.com/SAMdroid-apps/aslo/blob/master/web/css/_colors.sass>
> colors.sass
> <https://github.com/SAMdroid-apps/aslo/blob/master/web/css/_colors.sass>
>
> * Consistent with other web properties?  Here is my idea of how we should
> be consistent, but this is a topic for discussion:  https
> <https://activities-2.sugarlabs.org/>://
> <https://activities-2.sugarlabs.org/>activities-2.sugarlabs.org/
> <https://activities-2.sugarlabs.org/>
>
> * Live activity stream?  Could we have a live activity stream from ASLO +
> SocialHelp + Mailing List + Wiki?  That would be really cool!
>
> * Video demos?  Having little videos embed transparently in the site is
> very nice on the android design site:  https
> <https://developer.android.com/design/building-blocks/tabs.html>://
> <https://developer.android.com/design/building-blocks/tabs.html>
> developer.android.com
> <https://developer.android.com/design/building-blocks/tabs.html>/design/
> <https://developer.android.com/design/building-blocks/tabs.html>
> building-blocks
> <https://developer.android.com/design/building-blocks/tabs.html>/
> <https://developer.android.com/design/building-blocks/tabs.html>tabs.html
> <https://developer.android.com/design/building-blocks/tabs.html>
> Possibly we could have demos inside a XO frame or a desktop monitor
>
>
>  There is also a case of hosting this website. We can use GitHub pages
> with their CDN, etc. (we'll just have to change DNSes of domain) or host
> website on one of our machines (and e.g. auto-pulling from repository) -
> instrunctions for sysadmins are here: https
> <https://help.github.com/articles/using-jekyll-with-pages/>://
> <https://help.github.com/articles/using-jekyll-with-pages/>help.github.com
> <https://help.github.com/articles/using-jekyll-with-pages/>/articles/
> <https://help.github.com/articles/using-jekyll-with-pages/>
> using-jekyll-with-pages
> <https://help.github.com/articles/using-jekyll-with-pages/>/
> <https://help.github.com/articles/using-jekyll-with-pages/> . Advice from
> somebody from Infrastructure Team is really welcome.
>
> I don't think Github can do TLS for our domain, so I would just keep it on
> sunjammer.  + I haven't read great things about their "CDN".  Setting up a
> pulling & building webhook is very easy.  But deployment is a long time
> away :)  Just make a nice site and we can deploy easy :)
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Sam
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Tymon
>
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