[Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Plans for SoaS v9

Thomas Gilliard satellit at bendbroadband.com
Fri Mar 22 19:10:38 EDT 2013

One more link to a wiki page I just updated:

(Soas v1-Soas-v7 -download links)

Tom Gilliard

On 03/22/2013 03:26 PM, Thomas Gilliard wrote:
> I agree that it can be hard to find the present version of soas
>  One reason v8 is not prominently displayed is that anaconda 
> "liveinst" does not work for installation to a HD or USB
>  See [4] for a work-around until this is fixed
>  I am also listing the links for sweets-distribution-sugar 0.94
> Tom Gilliard
> satellit
> here are some links:
> [1] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick
> scroll down wiki page to f18 where link is listed
> [2] 
> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick/%CA%BB%C5%8Chelo_%CA%BBai
> Sugar on a Stick v8 ?O-helo ?ai
> has never been updated on the left sidebar of the wiki
> [3]http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick/Virtual_machines#Sugar_on_a_Stick_v8_.CA.BB.C5.8Chelo_.CA.BBai
> Importable VirtualBox appliance
> [4]http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Fedora_18#Tutorial:_Make_a_SoaS.img_file_for_repeated_installs
> * Note*: The following are .img files are provided to workaround the 
> bug that SoaS 8 fails to run a non-Live install to a hard disk or USB 
> drive
> [5]http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick/Subpages
> has listings for older versions
> [6] http://download.sugarlabs.org/soas/releases/
> Archive of oldest soas.iso files
> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sweets_Distribution
> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sweets_Distribution/Manual_Installation
> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Ubuntu
> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Summer_of_Code/2013#Finish_work_on_Ubuntu_Sugar
>  sweets-distribution: sugar 0.94
> On 03/22/2013 02:09 PM, Edward Mokurai Cherlin wrote:
>> On Fri, March 22, 2013 12:19 pm, Peter Robinson wrote:
>>> On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Martin Abente
>>> <martin.abente.lahaye at gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>> On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 10:37 AM, Peter Robinson<pbrobinson at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 12:59 PM, Peter Robinson<pbrobinson at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>> I'm trying to get a little bit more organised for this cycle than I
>>>>>> have been over the last couple.
>>>>>> The plans for SoaS v9 are going to be somewhat simple. We're going to
>>>>>> stick with the 0.98.x release of Sugar and focusing on polish.
>> Where can we find these plans?
>> I see that the SoaS pages on the Sugar Labs Wiki are seriously out of
>> date, referring to
>> Version 7http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Soas
>> Version 4http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick_QA
>> Release 1http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Running_Linux_Applications_Under_Sugar
>> No version number given, but dated 2010
>> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activity_Team/Testing
>> V5 for MacBook, Version 7http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Downloads
>> The Fedora Spins page doesn't say what version of SoaS it is offering at all.
>> http://spins.fedoraproject.org/soas/
>> Also, the Wiki fails to document release 0.98. It is out, according to
>> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/0.98/Roadmap
>> But it is not listed for any platform at
>> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Downloads#Do_you_use_GNU.2FLinux.3F
>> Separately from that, the Sweets repository for Ubuntu doesn't seem to exist.
>> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sweets_Distribution/Manual_Installation
>> Nor does the Ubuntu Sugar Team page.
>> I would take that up with the Ubuntu Sugar Team if I could find it.
>> ^_^ Sugar on Ubuntu is severely broken. Most activities fail to start.
>> None of it should have been released in that state.
>> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Development_Team/Packaging
>> lists this page
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SugarTeam
>> which the Wiki says does not and has never existed.
>>>>>> I would like to see more people testing and using it during the dev
>>>>>> cycle so I don't get the "My Activity is broken" post release or five
>>>>>> minutes before release when we're generating final images and pushing
>>>>>> them out to the Fedora mirrors.
>> I would be delighted to help.
>>>>>> I would also like to remove sugar-presence-service but that would
>>>>> mean
>>>>>> either dropping eToys or the developers stepping up to actually fix
>>>>>> the dependency that they've only been promising to do for 2 or so
>>>>>> years.
>> Who in particular?
>>>>>> Is there anything in particular that people would like to contribute
>>>>>> during this cycle? Anything I can help someone achieve? Does anyone
>>>>>> want to dig into the documentation on the web site to improve the
>>>>>> process?
>> If I had the information, I would be glad to add it to the Wiki on the
>> appropriate pages.
>>>>>> I'd also love marketing to get involved since we've not had any
>>>>>> publicity for a number of releases and after all Walter was telling
>>>>> me
>>>>>> some time back that it's the biggest single driver in the wiki.
>>>>>> Finally there's a Test Compose for the alpha available in the
>>>>>> following link. I've used it briefly in a VM and it boots and seems
>>>>> to
>>>>>> mostly work.
>>>>>> http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/19-Alpha-TC1/Live/
>>>>> I forget to mention for this cycle we'll also produce SoaS images to
>>>>> run on a number of ARM platforms. The first test of these should
>>>>> arrive around F-19 Beta.
>>>> +1 for Raspberry-Pi :)
>>> It won't be for Raspberry Pi. The armv5tel was dropped for Fedora 19.
>>> It will be supportable but that's through a different effort that I've
>>> not got the time to be involved with. It will worth with around 20 odd
>>> ARM devices including a new soon to be announced device that will cost
>>> almost the same as a RPi and be a lot more powerful.
>> Can we get a Wiki page listing them, or an external link, and can we
>> talk about testing SoaS on them _all_? If I could get funded to buy
>> one of each and set up a modest test station with proper storage,
>> power, and work area and all relevant ARM SoaS versions actually on
>> sticks, I might volunteer to do that in between writing OERs and
>> recruiting others to do so.
>>> Peter
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