[Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Plans for SoaS v9

Thomas Gilliard satellit at bendbroadband.com
Fri Mar 22 18:35:33 EDT 2013

On 03/22/2013 02:09 PM, Edward Mokurai Cherlin wrote:
> On Fri, March 22, 2013 12:19 pm, Peter Robinson wrote:
>> On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Martin Abente
>> <martin.abente.lahaye at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 10:37 AM, Peter Robinson <pbrobinson at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 12:59 PM, Peter Robinson <pbrobinson at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>> I'm trying to get a little bit more organised for this cycle than I
>>>>> have been over the last couple.
>>>>> The plans for SoaS v9 are going to be somewhat simple. We're going to
>>>>> stick with the 0.98.x release of Sugar and focusing on polish.
> Where can we find these plans?
> I see that the SoaS pages on the Sugar Labs Wiki are seriously out of
> date, referring to
> Version 7 http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Soas
> Version 4 http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick_QA
> Release 1 http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Running_Linux_Applications_Under_Sugar
> No version number given, but dated 2010
> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Activity_Team/Testing
> V5 for MacBook, Version 7 http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Downloads
> The Fedora Spins page doesn't say what version of SoaS it is offering at all.
> http://spins.fedoraproject.org/soas/
> Also, the Wiki fails to document release 0.98. It is out, according to
> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/0.98/Roadmap
> But it is not listed for any platform at
> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Downloads#Do_you_use_GNU.2FLinux.3F
> Separately from that, the Sweets repository for Ubuntu doesn't seem to exist.
> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sweets_Distribution/Manual_Installation
> Nor does the Ubuntu Sugar Team page.
> I would take that up with the Ubuntu Sugar Team if I could find it.
> ^_^ Sugar on Ubuntu is severely broken. Most activities fail to start.
> None of it should have been released in that state.
> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Development_Team/Packaging
> lists this page
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SugarTeam
> which the Wiki says does not and has never existed.
>>>>> I would like to see more people testing and using it during the dev
>>>>> cycle so I don't get the "My Activity is broken" post release or five
>>>>> minutes before release when we're generating final images and pushing
>>>>> them out to the Fedora mirrors.
> I would be delighted to help.
>>>>> I would also like to remove sugar-presence-service but that would
>>>> mean
>>>>> either dropping eToys or the developers stepping up to actually fix
>>>>> the dependency that they've only been promising to do for 2 or so
>>>>> years.
> Who in particular?
>>>>> Is there anything in particular that people would like to contribute
>>>>> during this cycle? Anything I can help someone achieve? Does anyone
>>>>> want to dig into the documentation on the web site to improve the
>>>>> process?
> If I had the information, I would be glad to add it to the Wiki on the
> appropriate pages.
>>>>> I'd also love marketing to get involved since we've not had any
>>>>> publicity for a number of releases and after all Walter was telling
>>>> me
>>>>> some time back that it's the biggest single driver in the wiki.
>>>>> Finally there's a Test Compose for the alpha available in the
>>>>> following link. I've used it briefly in a VM and it boots and seems
>>>> to
>>>>> mostly work.
>>>>> http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/19-Alpha-TC1/Live/
>>>> I forget to mention for this cycle we'll also produce SoaS images to
>>>> run on a number of ARM platforms. The first test of these should
>>>> arrive around F-19 Beta.
>>> +1 for Raspberry-Pi :)
>> It won't be for Raspberry Pi. The armv5tel was dropped for Fedora 19.
>> It will be supportable but that's through a different effort that I've
>> not got the time to be involved with. It will worth with around 20 odd
>> ARM devices including a new soon to be announced device that will cost
>> almost the same as a RPi and be a lot more powerful.
> Can we get a Wiki page listing them, or an external link, and can we
> talk about testing SoaS on them _all_? If I could get funded to buy
> one of each and set up a modest test station with proper storage,
> power, and work area and all relevant ARM SoaS versions actually on
> sticks, I might volunteer to do that in between writing OERs and
> recruiting others to do so.

Sorry I missed this on the previous post-

Here are wiki pages for the raspberry pi:

ARM Overview:

Tom Gilliard
>> Peter

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