[Sugar-devel] [FIELDBACK] Naming Alert

Christian Marc Schmidt christianmarc at gmail.com
Wed Mar 3 09:55:27 EST 2010

Does 10:30AM EST on Sunday work?


On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 3:14 AM, Gerald Ardito <gmanb5 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Christian,
> What time would that be?
> Gerald
> On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 12:34 AM, Christian Marc Schmidt
> <christianmarc at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi Gerald and Simon
>> It would be great to debrief in detail on your findings from the tests.
>> Could we try to meet this Sunday (instead of Saturday), same time?
>> Thanks,
>> Christian
>> On Mar 2, 2010, at 2:36 PM, Gerald Ardito <gmanb5 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Simon,
>> I conducted the test we discussed with my 5th graders today. There were
>> six students involved in the focus group.
>> First of all, they concurred with your results. They loved the feature of
>> being able to either Start New or Resume right from the Home View. As did
>> your students, mine remarked that it was way easier than going to the
>> Journal. They also mentioned that more often than not they are continuing
>> past work, as opposed to starting something new, so they found this feature
>> very valuable.
>> The Naming alert (present in this build) was something they found in their
>> way. They are used to naming their work right from the activity, so this
>> seemed like an extra step to them. They are not used to making notes in the
>> Journal, so this feature didn't add much for them, although I certainly see
>> how it could be really useful.
>> I hope this is helpful.
>> Best,
>> Gerald
>> On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 3:05 AM, Simon Schampijer <simon at schampijer.de>
>> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> I did a little survey in the Planetarium pilot last week [1]. The
>>> subject was "Start new" vs "Restart" in the home view. Christian did
>>> provide a test case and I made a Soas version of Sugar that let's you
>>> change the behavior with a button in the Home View [2].
>>> While of course there were interesting observations to make about
>>> starting activities one other user feedback caught my eye, too. There
>>> was a question in the survey: The naming alert.
>>> A little background: When I started the pilot, stopping the activity was
>>> a hard task for the learners. First you need to find the stop button,
>>> then you had to dismiss the naming alert. I use the wording "dismiss"
>>> because for new learners it does not make much sense, since they don't
>>> understand the concept of the Journal etc yet. What I did was, I removed
>>> the naming alert which improved temporarily somehow the situation. Since
>>> I wanted the kids to take notes I introduced an workflow introduced by
>>> the teacher. After each lesson (normally the kids work in one activity
>>> in a lesson), I let them take notes in the Journal entry. This works
>>> quite well and the kids like it a lot to do this. I tell them: "Describe
>>> in your words what you did today." You can write there as well if you
>>> did like it or not, or if it was hard task. And sometimes I give them a
>>> few words that should be contained. Like "coordinating system" when i
>>> did a lesson in Etoys on that.
>>> When doing the test the Naming Alert was present in the build. And the
>>> testers said: "Oh, that is nice, so I do not have to search for the
>>> Journal entry to take my notes." I asked them what does it look like and
>>> they said: "A bit like the Journal."
>>> What I concluded is: For the workflow it is important to have a way to
>>> directly take notes related to that activity you are doing at the
>>> moment. I still think, that it would be better to have that option in
>>> the activity toolbar, like discussed in the Design meetings. And I will
>>> strike for getting this into 0.90 :) But I think, if the kids use the
>>> Journal and take notes, the naming alert is not such a bad thing for
>>> 0.84.
>>> Thanks,
>>>     Simon
>>> [1] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Deployments/Planetarium
>>> [2] http://shell.sugarlabs.org/~erikos/soas-design-test-DE.iso,
>>> http://shell.sugarlabs.org/~erikos/soas-design-test-EN.iso
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