[Sugar-devel] [FIELDBACK] Naming Alert

Gerald Ardito gmanb5 at gmail.com
Wed Mar 3 11:19:44 EST 2010


Works for me. Talk to you then.

Gerald

On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 9:55 AM, Christian Marc Schmidt <
christianmarc at gmail.com> wrote:

> Does 10:30AM EST on Sunday work?
>
> Christian
>
> On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 3:14 AM, Gerald Ardito <gmanb5 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Christian,
> >
> > What time would that be?
> >
> > Gerald
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 12:34 AM, Christian Marc Schmidt
> > <christianmarc at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Gerald and Simon
> >> It would be great to debrief in detail on your findings from the tests.
> >> Could we try to meet this Sunday (instead of Saturday), same time?
> >> Thanks,
> >> Christian
> >>
> >> On Mar 2, 2010, at 2:36 PM, Gerald Ardito <gmanb5 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Simon,
> >>
> >> I conducted the test we discussed with my 5th graders today. There were
> >> six students involved in the focus group.
> >>
> >> First of all, they concurred with your results. They loved the feature
> of
> >> being able to either Start New or Resume right from the Home View. As
> did
> >> your students, mine remarked that it was way easier than going to the
> >> Journal. They also mentioned that more often than not they are
> continuing
> >> past work, as opposed to starting something new, so they found this
> feature
> >> very valuable.
> >>
> >> The Naming alert (present in this build) was something they found in
> their
> >> way. They are used to naming their work right from the activity, so this
> >> seemed like an extra step to them. They are not used to making notes in
> the
> >> Journal, so this feature didn't add much for them, although I certainly
> see
> >> how it could be really useful.
> >>
> >> I hope this is helpful.
> >>
> >> Best,
> >> Gerald
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 3:05 AM, Simon Schampijer <simon at schampijer.de>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> I did a little survey in the Planetarium pilot last week [1]. The
> >>> subject was "Start new" vs "Restart" in the home view. Christian did
> >>> provide a test case and I made a Soas version of Sugar that let's you
> >>> change the behavior with a button in the Home View [2].
> >>>
> >>> While of course there were interesting observations to make about
> >>> starting activities one other user feedback caught my eye, too. There
> >>> was a question in the survey: The naming alert.
> >>>
> >>> A little background: When I started the pilot, stopping the activity
> was
> >>> a hard task for the learners. First you need to find the stop button,
> >>> then you had to dismiss the naming alert. I use the wording "dismiss"
> >>> because for new learners it does not make much sense, since they don't
> >>> understand the concept of the Journal etc yet. What I did was, I
> removed
> >>> the naming alert which improved temporarily somehow the situation.
> Since
> >>> I wanted the kids to take notes I introduced an workflow introduced by
> >>> the teacher. After each lesson (normally the kids work in one activity
> >>> in a lesson), I let them take notes in the Journal entry. This works
> >>> quite well and the kids like it a lot to do this. I tell them:
> "Describe
> >>> in your words what you did today." You can write there as well if you
> >>> did like it or not, or if it was hard task. And sometimes I give them a
> >>> few words that should be contained. Like "coordinating system" when i
> >>> did a lesson in Etoys on that.
> >>>
> >>> When doing the test the Naming Alert was present in the build. And the
> >>> testers said: "Oh, that is nice, so I do not have to search for the
> >>> Journal entry to take my notes." I asked them what does it look like
> and
> >>> they said: "A bit like the Journal."
> >>>
> >>> What I concluded is: For the workflow it is important to have a way to
> >>> directly take notes related to that activity you are doing at the
> >>> moment. I still think, that it would be better to have that option in
> >>> the activity toolbar, like discussed in the Design meetings. And I will
> >>> strike for getting this into 0.90 :) But I think, if the kids use the
> >>> Journal and take notes, the naming alert is not such a bad thing for
> >>> 0.84.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>>     Simon
> >>>
> >>> [1] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Deployments/Planetarium
> >>> [2] http://shell.sugarlabs.org/~erikos/soas-design-test-DE.iso<http://shell.sugarlabs.org/%7Eerikos/soas-design-test-DE.iso>
> ,
> >>> http://shell.sugarlabs.org/~erikos/soas-design-test-EN.iso<http://shell.sugarlabs.org/%7Eerikos/soas-design-test-EN.iso>
> >>>
> >>>
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