[Sugar-devel] [FIELDBACK] Naming Alert

[Gerald Ardito]

Christian,

What time would that be?

Gerald

On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 12:34 AM, Christian Marc Schmidt <
christianmarc at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Gerald and Simon
>
> It would be great to debrief in detail on your findings from the tests.
> Could we try to meet this Sunday (instead of Saturday), same time?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Christian
>
> On Mar 2, 2010, at 2:36 PM, Gerald Ardito <gmanb5 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Simon,
>
> I conducted the test we discussed with my 5th graders today. There were six
> students involved in the focus group.
>
> First of all, they concurred with your results. They loved the feature of
> being able to either Start New or Resume right from the Home View. As did
> your students, mine remarked that it was way easier than going to the
> Journal. They also mentioned that more often than not they are continuing
> past work, as opposed to starting something new, so they found this feature
> very valuable.
>
> The Naming alert (present in this build) was something they found in their
> way. They are used to naming their work right from the activity, so this
> seemed like an extra step to them. They are not used to making notes in the
> Journal, so this feature didn't add much for them, although I certainly see
> how it could be really useful.
>
> I hope this is helpful.
>
> Best,
> Gerald
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 3:05 AM, Simon Schampijer < <simon at schampijer.de>
> simon at schampijer.de> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I did a little survey in the Planetarium pilot last week [1]. The
>> subject was "Start new" vs "Restart" in the home view. Christian did
>> provide a test case and I made a Soas version of Sugar that let's you
>> change the behavior with a button in the Home View [2].
>>
>> While of course there were interesting observations to make about
>> starting activities one other user feedback caught my eye, too. There
>> was a question in the survey: The naming alert.
>>
>> A little background: When I started the pilot, stopping the activity was
>> a hard task for the learners. First you need to find the stop button,
>> then you had to dismiss the naming alert. I use the wording "dismiss"
>> because for new learners it does not make much sense, since they don't
>> understand the concept of the Journal etc yet. What I did was, I removed
>> the naming alert which improved temporarily somehow the situation. Since
>> I wanted the kids to take notes I introduced an workflow introduced by
>> the teacher. After each lesson (normally the kids work in one activity
>> in a lesson), I let them take notes in the Journal entry. This works
>> quite well and the kids like it a lot to do this. I tell them: "Describe
>> in your words what you did today." You can write there as well if you
>> did like it or not, or if it was hard task. And sometimes I give them a
>> few words that should be contained. Like "coordinating system" when i
>> did a lesson in Etoys on that.
>>
>> When doing the test the Naming Alert was present in the build. And the
>> testers said: "Oh, that is nice, so I do not have to search for the
>> Journal entry to take my notes." I asked them what does it look like and
>> they said: "A bit like the Journal."
>>
>> What I concluded is: For the workflow it is important to have a way to
>> directly take notes related to that activity you are doing at the
>> moment. I still think, that it would be better to have that option in
>> the activity toolbar, like discussed in the Design meetings. And I will
>> strike for getting this into 0.90 :) But I think, if the kids use the
>> Journal and take notes, the naming alert is not such a bad thing for 0.84.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>     Simon
>>
>> [1] <http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Deployments/Planetarium>
>> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Deployments/Planetarium
>> [2] <http://shell.sugarlabs.org/%7Eerikos/soas-design-test-DE.iso>
>> http://shell.sugarlabs.org/~erikos/soas-design-test-DE.iso<http://shell.sugarlabs.org/%7Eerikos/soas-design-test-DE.iso>
>> ,
>>  <http://shell.sugarlabs.org/%7Eerikos/soas-design-test-EN.iso>
>> http://shell.sugarlabs.org/~erikos/soas-design-test-EN.iso<http://shell.sugarlabs.org/%7Eerikos/soas-design-test-EN.iso>
>>
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