[Sugar-devel] string changes for 0.84.1

[Sayamindu Dasgupta]

CC += localization list

On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 9:10 PM, Tomeu Vizoso <tomeu at sugarlabs.org> wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 11:10, Tomeu Vizoso <tomeu at sugarlabs.org> wrote:
>> On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 10:24, Simon Schampijer <simon at schampijer.de> wrote:
>>> Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 12:06, Morgan Collett <morgan.collett at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 12:53, Tomeu Vizoso <tomeu at sugarlabs.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> chances are that some of the bugs we get to fix during 0.84.1 will
>>>>>> require string changes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What do people think about bundling all those string changes together
>>>>>> in one single update in something like one or two weeks? Then
>>>>>> translators can translate those in one go before 0.84.1 is out.
>>>>>
>>>>> Today is UserInterfaceFreeze for Ubuntu jaunty, which includes a
>>>>> string freeze, so although the Ubuntu release is on April 23 we won't
>>>>> be able to ship 0.84.1 if there are string changes.
>>>>>
>>>>> The best approach for Ubuntu packaging in this case would be to apply
>>>>> 0.84.1 patches which fix bugs and which don't have string changes, to
>>>>> the 0.84.0 packages.
>>>>
>>>> Then I guess it would be better to not change any string in 0.84.1?
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Tomeu
>>>
>>> Yeah, string changes sounds out of question for 0.84.1 - however did you
>>> have anything specific in mind - that would not work at all without a string
>>> change?
>>
>> There are some tickets about file transfer that would need UI changes,
>> but we can probably do without new strings, not sure.
>
> After giving a deeper look at the schedules in Fedora and Ubuntu,
> looks like we can land fixes that imply string changes, as their
> freezes don't apply to Sugar.
>
> For Ubuntu, it was clarified some minutes ago:
>
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserInterfaceFreeze?action=info
>
> For Fedora, the string freeze only applies to software for which
> Fedora is upstream:
>
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ReleaseEngineering/StringFreezePolicy
>
> So maybe we should take this chance and add some strings for 0.84.1?
>
> Regards,
>


To be honest, I'm a bit apprehensive about lifting the string freeze,
since it may cause a large number of strings to be pushed into the
stable branch all of a sudden (I know that everyone has his/her
favourite string which has not got in due to string freeze ;-), and as
soon as the freeze is lifted I expect a deluge of new strings coming
in).
Normally most projects (GNOME, etc) do not lift the string freeze for
minor releases, and I think that the translators are expecting that
the string freeze will _not_ to be lifted for the 0.84 release.
Considering the above two facts, I would prefer the status quo to
remain - in other words, if you want a new string to go in, use the
normal process you follow for a string freeze break approval.

Cheers,
Sayamindu


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Sayamindu Dasgupta
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