[Sugar-devel] string changes for 0.84.1

[Tomeu Vizoso]

On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 17:06, Sayamindu Dasgupta <sayamindu at gmail.com> wrote:
> CC += localization list
>
> On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 9:10 PM, Tomeu Vizoso <tomeu at sugarlabs.org> wrote:
>> On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 11:10, Tomeu Vizoso <tomeu at sugarlabs.org> wrote:
>>> On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 10:24, Simon Schampijer <simon at schampijer.de> wrote:
>>>> Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 12:06, Morgan Collett <morgan.collett at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 12:53, Tomeu Vizoso <tomeu at sugarlabs.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> chances are that some of the bugs we get to fix during 0.84.1 will
>>>>>>> require string changes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What do people think about bundling all those string changes together
>>>>>>> in one single update in something like one or two weeks? Then
>>>>>>> translators can translate those in one go before 0.84.1 is out.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Today is UserInterfaceFreeze for Ubuntu jaunty, which includes a
>>>>>> string freeze, so although the Ubuntu release is on April 23 we won't
>>>>>> be able to ship 0.84.1 if there are string changes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The best approach for Ubuntu packaging in this case would be to apply
>>>>>> 0.84.1 patches which fix bugs and which don't have string changes, to
>>>>>> the 0.84.0 packages.
>>>>>
>>>>> Then I guess it would be better to not change any string in 0.84.1?
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Tomeu
>>>>
>>>> Yeah, string changes sounds out of question for 0.84.1 - however did you
>>>> have anything specific in mind - that would not work at all without a string
>>>> change?
>>>
>>> There are some tickets about file transfer that would need UI changes,
>>> but we can probably do without new strings, not sure.
>>
>> After giving a deeper look at the schedules in Fedora and Ubuntu,
>> looks like we can land fixes that imply string changes, as their
>> freezes don't apply to Sugar.
>>
>> For Ubuntu, it was clarified some minutes ago:
>>
>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserInterfaceFreeze?action=info
>>
>> For Fedora, the string freeze only applies to software for which
>> Fedora is upstream:
>>
>> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/ReleaseEngineering/StringFreezePolicy
>>
>> So maybe we should take this chance and add some strings for 0.84.1?
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>
>
> To be honest, I'm a bit apprehensive about lifting the string freeze,
> since it may cause a large number of strings to be pushed into the
> stable branch all of a sudden (I know that everyone has his/her
> favourite string which has not got in due to string freeze ;-), and as
> soon as the freeze is lifted I expect a deluge of new strings coming
> in).
> Normally most projects (GNOME, etc) do not lift the string freeze for
> minor releases, and I think that the translators are expecting that
> the string freeze will _not_ to be lifted for the 0.84 release.
> Considering the above two facts, I would prefer the status quo to
> remain - in other words, if you want a new string to go in, use the
> normal process you follow for a string freeze break approval.

Oh, sure, what I was proposing is to ask an exception for the set of
strings (3-4) we need to add. Not really to lift the freeze.

Regards,

Tomeu