[Sugar-devel] Jaunty up and running

[Sascha Silbe]

On Sun, Jul 05, 2009 at 08:25:16PM +0200, James Michael DuPont wrote:

> Sascha,
> It build and installed all according to the instructions.
Which instructions specifically?

> I dont have this all here at the moment as I said. If you have any
> questions, you can see my build snapshot, that contains everything.
Unfortunately a build tree is a bit unwieldy to examine manually and 
also does not show the commands you used. I could at least verify you're 
using the right version of sugar-jhbuild, though.

> I have put 2 days of work and finally got it running on ubuntu, you 
> can see
> the patches.
That is _way_ too much. sugar-jhbuild should work exactly as described 
on [2] for any of the supported distros (Debian squeeze/sid, Ubuntu 
Intrepid/Jaunty, Fedora 10/11/12). I regularly check this myself, in 
addition to the buildbots [1] doing automatic builds.
There's something seriously wrong with your installation, so please 
let's find the problem before you waste another day encountering bugs 
that are caused by the same root issue.
I'll try to be on IRC (#sugar on irc.freenode.net) tomorrow, so maybe we 
can figure it out interactively.

> You can find many bug reports of sugar on ubuntu and others. I dont 
> know of
> anyone who sugar works. Everyone who tried the packages complained of
> problems.
Sorry, I'm confused now. Are you talking about sugar-jhbuild or about 
the Sugar packages included in Ubuntu? Those are two entirely separate 
things (and shouldn't be mixed).
Is it possible you installed both in parallel? If you did that might 
very well be the reason for your problems.

> How come this is so difficult? How come you guys dont test the 
> packages
> yourself?
> Installing ubuntu takes about 30 minutes. You can run it it on a 
> virtual
> machine.
I do test sugar-jhbuild on all of the supported distros. I even use 
sugar-jhbuild on Debian squeeze regularly myself (as a user).
What I don't do is testing the distro-supplied packages as that's the 
respective distro maintainers job.

> Can you tell me of sugar working on any distro out of the box?
You might want to try Sugar on a Stick [3].

> I really cannot find anything on ubuntu except wiki pages that are out 
> of
> date.
Where did you find those out of date pages? I tried to clean up all 
sugar-jhbuild related pages but have obviously overlooked some.


[1] http://buildbot.sugarlabs.org/
[2] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Development_Team/Jhbuild
[3] http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/SoaS

CU Sascha

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