[SoaS] FW: Crazy SoaS Idea Another way to distribute sugar USB's

[Thomas C Gilliard]

Caryl;

I am uploading a 2GB USB img file  - ETA about 2 hrs

http://people.sugarlabs.org/Tgillard/soas-i386-20100324-tests.tar.gz

if you expand this file you will find
soas-i386-20100324-liveusb-creator.img

Burn this to a 2Gb or larger USB/SD

dd if=soas-i386-20100324-liveusb-creator.img of=/dev/sd(*)  *( your 
device name for USB, sda/sdb/sdc/.....)

This USB when booted will have liveusb-creator (with extra command  
--reset-mbr ) as a sugar application ( large O ) on f3 ring.
(or command line in sugar terminal)
This can be used to make live USB sticks:
use 3 USB sticks:
  1 soas-i386-20100324-liveusb-creator Boot stick
  2 USB or CD/DVD, Containing  strawberry , Blueberry or other .iso files
  3 Target USB to write to

ALSO Note:
http://people.sugarlabs.org/Tgillard/ASLO-xo.tar.gz
Contains 111.xo activities; that can be , expanded, and transferred to 
1GB or larger USB  for "sneakernet" off web installs of activity.xo by 
drag and drop in sugar from inserted USB to Journal in sugar frame.

Tom Gilliard

----------------------Tests on this USB Booted--------------------------


=test of soas-i386-20100324.21.iso=
Nightly Composes (f13 rawhide)

written to 2 GB lexar firefly USB stick (OS=Ubuntu 9.04)

In Terminal:
su -c "./livecd-iso-to-disk --format --reset-mbr --overlay-size-mb 800 
soas-i386-20100324.21.iso /dev/sdg"


==Test Activities==
Booted USB in EeePC900

+=Started and stopped correctly
*** (-) Broken and will not start

IRC.5=+ (yum remove XoIRC.activity, then DL IRC.xo from ASLO in Browse)
Browse.114+
Etoys.113+ (no color on icon after use)
Visual Match.21+
***Speak.14(-) Pulses, no pop up to stop. Vu.lux.olpc.speak.log blank 
inlog application
Calculate.30+
Turtle Art.83+
Finance+
Typing Turtle.26+
Log.23+
Memorize.33+
implode.9+
Connect.22+
Image Viewer.14+
Chat.66+
Get IA Books.3+
***write.68(-) top bar turns white and cannot access buttons
Clock.5+  Talks
Infoslicer.6+
Jukebox.18+
PlayGo.5+
Physics.4+
Terminal.31+
FlipSticks.2+
***Maze.6 (popup to stop)
pippy+
analyze.8+
*** all four of TAM TAM apps failed (popup to stop) ver 51 and 52
record.64+ Video and audio OK (took picture)
Read.78+
liveusb-creator.1+ Sugarized In F3 Circle Field as large "O" icon

Notes on how to sugarize applications:

http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Category:Live_USB#Fedora_Notes_on_How_to_Create_a_Live_USB_from_a_LiveCD

( works fine, made strawberry 2GB USB with it using 3 sticks)
  1 Boot stick
  2 Contains strawberry.iso
  3 Target to write

==copy to img file for archiving and Duplication==:
sudo su
<password>
dd if=/dev/sdg of=soas-i386-20100324-liveusb-creator.img
3915776+0 records in
3915776+0 records out
2004877312 bytes (2.0 GB) copied, 91.129 s, 22.0 MB/s


Peter Robinson wrote:
> Hi Caryl,
>
> I think that might be possible, I vaguely seem to remember that it
> might already be able to do this in Fedora.
>
> As Mel has said it wouldn't currently fit on a standard CD as the SoaS
> image is currently around 500Mb so the combined pair would be over a
> gig.
>
> Can you file a ticket against SoaS so it can be tracked?
>
> Regards,
> Peter
>
> On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 5:21 PM, Caryl Bigenho <cbigenho at hotmail.com> wrote:
>   
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Semi-techie teacher here (me) has a crazy idea. Mel asked me to send it
>> along for further discussion on the SoaS list. I was hoping to have this be
>> something I could use at a tech fair for teachers next month, but better
>> later than never if it is possible.
>>
>> Caryl
>>
>> DVD costs more, but would work.
>>
>>     
>>> Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 10:45:06 -0400
>>> From: mel at melchua.com
>>> To: cbigenho at hotmail.com
>>> CC: sdz at sugarlabs.org; sdaly.be at gmail.com
>>> Subject: Re: Crazy SoaS Idea
>>>
>>> Hi, Caryl - would you mind forwarding this convo to the soas list?
>>> Thomas Gilliard has been having a few similar ideas and perhaps there's
>>> a chance to work together here.
>>>
>>> The biggest problem I see with this is that the files needed to do it
>>> wouldn't fit on a CD - but maybe it could be done on a DVD. If so, that
>>> would definitely make a nice project for someone to pick up.
>>>
>>> --Mel
>>>
>>> On 03/26/2010 01:29 AM, Caryl Bigenho wrote:
>>>       
>>>> Hi Mel, Sebastian and Sean,
>>>>
>>>> Here is a crazy mindstorm for you...
>>>>
>>>> Is it possible to create a single CD that has the SoaS file download
>>>> that could be transferred to a computer that could then make the USB
>>>> version... and at the same time (same CD) have the live CD version that
>>>> could be bootable on PCs?
>>>>
>>>> Could these files be downloaded on a Mac, put into a Burn folder, and
>>>> burned on a CD that would work on a PC even if it didn't play on a Mac?
>>>>
>>>> In other words something like this:
>>>>
>>>> Regular Live CD to boot... but with a separate file folder on the CD
>>>> with the SoaS image that could be accessed to create the SoaS USB
>>>> stick??? A dual purpose CD?
>>>>
>>>> This would make it possible to distribute a CD that folks could try as a
>>>> live CD and also give them a file they could use to make their own USB
>>>> stick???
>>>>
>>>> So there would be 2 files... One with the SoaS files for the creation of
>>>> the USB stick and the other to play as a live CD. Am I crazy or what???
>>>>
>>>> Caryl
>>>>         
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