[IAEP] Sugar network / School Network

[Dave Crossland]

Hi!

On 17 May 2016 at 17:54, Laura Vargas <laura at somosazucar.org> wrote:

> Hi!
>
> 2016-05-15 22:53 GMT-05:00 Dave Crossland <dave at lab6.com>:
>
>>
>> Hi!
>>
>> On 15 May 2016 at 13:29, Laura Vargas <laura at somosazucar.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Sugar Network is up the air, and it has more than 35.000 users. You can
>>> find the stats here> http://network.sugarlabs.org/stats-viewer/
>>>
>>
>> WOW!!! That stats page is AMAZING!! :D
>>
>
> :D Thx! Those are node statistics.
>
> "The node statistics are about the entire server and *depersonalized*.
> Statistics are being collected by analyzing regular requests to an API
> server and stored for each Sugar Network node."[1]
>
> Currently we have only one node; the one that refers to users that have
> installed Hexoquinasa (Sugar 0.96+Quechua+Aymara+SN).
>

Cool!! :D


> Deployment of Hexoquinasa started by MinEdu on Peruvian *Public Schools*
> on the beginnig of School year in 2014. You can tell how the instalation
> process has evolved from the statistics of total.users graph.
>
> You can also find stats from the node usage at:
> http://jita.sugarlabs.org/node.sugarlabs.org/
>

WOW!!!!!


> But having looked at the SN wiki pages in more detail, I am still confused
>> about Sugar Network....
>>
>
> Sugar Network-Sugar Labs wiki pages were originally created by SN backend
> main developer Aleksey Lim. His efforts to document the SN solution were
> extensive, yet I do agree this documentation requires some cleaning and
> updating.
>

> Any specific question, please ask.
>

Am I correct in understanding that an effort to set up School Network as a
separate organisation is abandoned?


> it seems to have no activity in the last 8 months;
>>
>
> That is not that much for a wiki page :D
>

;)


> I don't understand why it isn't a part of Sugar itself;
>>
>
> Not yet but I hope the day will come. We certainly could use new/good
> energies and funding to continue this endevour. I would like to quote James
> Cameron from OLPC about SN:
>
> "I'd like to see Sugar Labs focus on making Sugar Network more
> available.  It has clearly, by the numbers, outdone the original OLPC
> school server concept."
>
> We should open debate for SL-SN future and define strategy and concrete
> actions.
>

I agree - and James sage advice is classic :)


>
> I don't understand how it raised a small fund for development labour -
>> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Crowd_funding/Sugar_Network#Overall_progress
>> -
>>
>
> After Sugar Camp Lima 2011, Bernie Innocenti, Juan Camilo Lema, Aleksey
> Lim, Sebastian Silva and I, understood the need for SN and with time
> generosity and very limited funds we made it happen; In order to be able to
> actually deploy the solution on the field, we had to get to the MinEdu
> offices with the solution tested and ready to go, and that's what we did.
>

AMAZING!!!! :D



> and then seems to have stopped without posting why.
>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/sugar-network seems dormant
>> since 2014.
>>
>
> We haven't stoped.  Aleksey did work on a new frontend prototype called
> School Network, while Sebastian and I continue to monitor and admin the
> contents provided by the children in the original node.
>

Great :D


> But since it 2 of the 3 key people I could find listed are you and
>> Sebastian, I hope you can refresh the wiki page section to explain these
>> things :)
>>
> We haven't heared back from Aleksey in a while,
>

He's totally gone, I think: He told me privately that Sugar Labs was his
first experience as a FOSS contributor, and he worked full time on Sugar,
but stepped aside partly because he wanted a higher income, and partly
because he wanted to work in edutech in his own country, which was not
adopting Sugar.

So I don't expect he will contribute to Sugar again :/


> and this is a shame as his contributions for learners to have acess to a
> friendly - libre - open - digital communication exchange platform
> were major and have been recognized [2].
>

:D


> There are many functionalities that SN provides; content creation, content
> exchange, activities distribution, feedback from field (questions, ideas,
> problems), etc, still many more can be done, for example as Tony Anderson
> once noted, SN is still bound to internet access as the sneakernet
> functionality was not fully implemented.
>

Okay cool. Is there a public roadmap document?


> Hopefully -somehow- we will be able to upstream the solution for Sugar.
> But this will require going thru the components and features, in order to
> integrate them in a way that is logical and has consensus
>

Hmm. I don't really understand this... If 'School Network' as a separate
effort is abandoned, then _de facto_ Sugar Network is by name part of Sugar
Labs, since its using the trademark ...right?

I guess to make it part of Sugar Labs, a first thing will be to migrate its
codebase from NotABug to Github.com/sugarlabs

Perhaps then, integrate it into consolidated packaging information (since
there seems to be an official release process, and then optional release
processes for 3rd party distributions of Sugar, such as the "Sugar
Construction Kit" wiki page, and probably other docs for abandoned sugar
distros like Dextrose and perhaps others...)

And then, include it in the 0.110 release.

What else? :D


> [1]
> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/index.php?title=Sugar_Network/API&redirect=no#Node_statistics
> [2] Hexoquinasa received an honourable mention for its contribution to the
> development and popularisation of free and open source software and the
> empowerment of communities more at https://www.apc.org/es/node/19368
>

-- 
Cheers
Dave
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