[IAEP] Etoys, is it difficult or easy?

Edward Cherlin echerlin at gmail.com
Sat Sep 25 18:06:28 EDT 2010

It is true that you can do all of these things in EToys, if you know
where to start. It is also true that the start screen of EToys could
be improved by providing a path to each of them, and to other
education modules, and Etoys could be improved with a few more
introductory modules.

Since children and untrained teachers cannot be expected to discover
these paths, and paths in other Activities, on their own, I am in the
middle of writing a guide to Discovery on the XO. The starting point
is my Wiki page,


The undiscoverable  is an unofficial FAQ for tips, tricks, and
solutions to common problems that may otherwise be tricky to find.
These are being considered for inclusion in the official SoaS

The Etoys section needs vast expansion. I have an outline in mind,
which I can share with anybody who would like to work on it.

On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 15:59, Tim McNamara <paperless at timmcnamara.co.nz> wrote:
> The analogy doesn't quite fit, as it's possible to do complex things in all
> of those tools and it's easy to do simple things in EToys. Each Activity can
> be used in this learning model, e.g. training wheels to motorbike.
> Tim
> On 25 September 2010 05:48, Cherry Withers <cwithers at ekindling.org> wrote:
>> And Scratch? ... don't remember where I read it,  but it sounded logical
>> to me.
>> Use progressively difficult tools for progressively difficult tasks.
>> To confirm this statement,  I add the phrase: "Visible learning, invisible
>> technology".
>> Children would first learn TurtleArt.
>> When they outgrow it switch to Scratch.
>> When all its possibilities are exhausted, continue with eToys.
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Edward Mokurai (默雷/धर्ममेघशब्दगर्ज/دھرممیگھشبدگر ج) Cherlin
Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation.
The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination.

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