[IAEP] Etoys, is it difficult or easy?

Steve Thomas stevesargon at gmail.com
Sat Sep 25 20:47:51 EDT 2010


Edward,

Thanks, please send me the outline and what you think needs to be more
"easily discoverable" and I will work on it.

Stephen

On Sat, Sep 25, 2010 at 6:06 PM, Edward Cherlin <echerlin at gmail.com> wrote:

> It is true that you can do all of these things in EToys, if you know
> where to start. It is also true that the start screen of EToys could
> be improved by providing a path to each of them, and to other
> education modules, and Etoys could be improved with a few more
> introductory modules.
>
> Since children and untrained teachers cannot be expected to discover
> these paths, and paths in other Activities, on their own, I am in the
> middle of writing a guide to Discovery on the XO. The starting point
> is my Wiki page,
>
> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/The_Undiscoverable
>
> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick
> The undiscoverable  is an unofficial FAQ for tips, tricks, and
> solutions to common problems that may otherwise be tricky to find.
> These are being considered for inclusion in the official SoaS
> documentation.
>
> The Etoys section needs vast expansion. I have an outline in mind,
> which I can share with anybody who would like to work on it.
>
> On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 15:59, Tim McNamara <paperless at timmcnamara.co.nz>
> wrote:
> > The analogy doesn't quite fit, as it's possible to do complex things in
> all
> > of those tools and it's easy to do simple things in EToys. Each Activity
> can
> > be used in this learning model, e.g. training wheels to motorbike.
> >
> > Tim
> >
> > On 25 September 2010 05:48, Cherry Withers <cwithers at ekindling.org>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> And Scratch? ... don't remember where I read it,  but it sounded logical
> >> to me.
> >> Use progressively difficult tools for progressively difficult tasks.
> >> To confirm this statement,  I add the phrase: "Visible learning,
> invisible
> >> technology".
> >> Children would first learn TurtleArt.
> >> When they outgrow it switch to Scratch.
> >> When all its possibilities are exhausted, continue with eToys.
> >
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