[IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SoaS] The Future of Sugar on a Stick

Sean DALY sdaly.be at gmail.com
Wed Sep 23 12:06:46 EDT 2009

But marketing discussions are already on the Sugar Labs marketing
list. There's Sugar Labs marketing, nothing specific to SoaS. SoaS is
the pillar of the marketing strategy, but in the Sugar Labs picture.

The mailing list in question is for developers... on the specific
existing project. Googling "Sugar on a Stick" will find (as it finds
today) the Sugar Labs website and the download page.


On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 6:00 PM, Peter Robinson <pbrobinson at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 4:55 PM, Sean DALY <sdaly.be at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I thought about that, but in that case it wouldn't be appropriate for
>> Sebastian or anyone associated with Fedora or any other distro for
>> that matter to moderate the list; the moderator would need to be
>> distro-independent. Would the list also be open to any alternate
>> liveUSB Sugar project? This seems premature to me, what "Sugar on a
>> Stick" refers to is still under discussion today without consensus (I
>> am confident consensus is possible though, as drawn-out as it can be
>> :-).
>> Whereas Sebastian is running a great project with today's SoaS and
>> that active project will I think benefit from a dedicated list despite
>> Martin's reasonable misgivings about duplicate membership in many
>> cases.
>> Put another way, if an Ubuntu liveUSB project with great ease of use
>> comes along, or Novell decides to push the openSuSE liveUSB through
>> their education sales channel, or a Trisquel variant with a
>> bulletproof stick loader and teacher-friendly setup screens turns out
>> to run great, my position is that Sugar Labs should at least have the
>> choice to put best foot forward with the best liveUSB project marketed
>> as "Sugar on a Stick". However, again, in all fairness to Sebastian
>> and as stated previously, I think the existing liveUSB Fedora project
>> is and should remain Sugar on a Stick for the forseeable future. So as
>> to reassure Sebastian that no rug will be pulled out from under him,
>> perhaps such a change could be scheduled? For example each year
>> following Oversight Board elections, first potential change a year
>> from now?
>> All of which woud not preclude alternate liveUSB projects from
>> appearing on the Try Sugar page (such alternate projects if very
>> active, possibly having their own lists).
>> The Marketing Team needs some certainty as much as the SoaS code
>> contributors; surprises are always difficult to handle if different or
>> contradictory from previous communications (a situation we dealt with
>> in June, fortunately with a happy ending).
> You read a lot into the name of a mailing list. What has the name of a
> mailing list for _developers_ got to do with _martketing_......?
> Nothing! And by keeping it generic you get the advantage that if it
> changes to SuSE or the latest and greatest distro that hasn't yet been
> invented it doesn't matter. We already have a fedora-olpc list on the
> fedora list servers..... ultimately keep the name generic and that way
> you keep it the same if the tech stuff change...... that's the best
> marketing as it will be forever that in google.
> Peter

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