[IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SLOBS] SLOBs Position on SoaS

Caroline Meeks solutiongrove at gmail.com
Wed Sep 16 10:49:03 EDT 2009

On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 10:36 AM, Tomeu Vizoso <tomeu at sugarlabs.org> wrote:

> On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 16:24, Daniel Drake <dsd at laptop.org> wrote:
> > 2009/9/16 Sebastian Dziallas <sebastian at when.com>:
> >> Let me rephrase again, to make things clear. I'd love to hear an
> >> "official" answer on this. Soon.
> >>
> >> Is the current SoaS going to be the primary way Sugar Labs distributes a
> >> Sugar-centric GNU/Linux distribution?
> >
> > Isn't there a wider question first? the one that asks if Sugar Labs is
> > actually interested in being a distributor rather than just an
> > upstream. I raised that question in my recent discussion and my
> > feeling is that the responses basically said "well we should really
> > just focus on being an upstream since we already are overworked there,
> > but actually Sugar Labs is just a platform where everyone interested
> > in Sugar can get together and run Sugar-related projects"
> >
> > Based on that, I'd say that SoaS is a fine project to sit under Sugar
> > Labs but there shouldn't be a "primary way" of getting Sugar. Like
> > other upstream projects, Sugar Labs should work with multiple
> > downstreams (treating them equally) in order to achieve wide adoption
> > of the software.
> That matches quite well my personal point of view. I'm just a bit
> concerned that the marketing team might need something like SoaS as
> part of their job to make Sugar widely known. But I'm just guessing
> here...

I think its also vitally important to getting Sugar tried in a wide number
of classrooms and schools.  As far as educators are concerned we don't
really have a product till its been used in a school for at least a year,
and hopefully has official studies and data showing it improves performance.
This will take years.

Commercial products do that with millions of dollars of venture capital.  We
don't have that. We have you.  We have ourselves and our community and the
people out there in the world who believe in our mission if they choose to
join us.

Our goal is to work together to have Sugar be better then the commercial
alternative, more cost effective for learning, and free as in freedom, and
to have it stand up in a school board meeting on its pedagogical merits.

> That said, SoaS is very important for me as an upstream Sugar
> developer because before we had it, people had to install a linux
> distro or get an XO to try or test Sugar. So I have a big interest in
> that SoaS work continue forward, in SLs if needed.
> Regards,
> Tomeu
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> What Sugar Labs does is determined by the participants.» - David
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Caroline Meeks
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