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[Dennis Daniels]

James,

There is definitely more polish here
http://people.sugarlabs.org/jdsimmons/ReadEtextsTheMovie.avi
Is there audio on either the .avi or .ogg? If yes, I didn't hear either.

May I suggest you put the .avi video on youtube? I really believe that
Sugar needs more screen time... people need to see it in action.

AFAIK there Google Docs is the only free collaboration text editor out
there... I was hoping that there would be a demo of 'record' for audio
annotations to the e text in your video. Typing is so... 20th century!
(only said partly tongue in cheek, I'm a big fan of recording in all
forms, but typing is just slow, and for ESL learners, a great big road
block for language fluency...IMHO)


I've not used Kino in a long time... is there a video editor in Sugar?
I taught video production with my students and they had a blast...
especially since they didn't have to type to tell their stories!
Another score for recording tech!

re: cinerella: Not used it. I'll take a look at virtual dub, don't
know if it runs on *nix or not.

All the best,
Dennis

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On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 11:07, Jim Simmons<nicestep at gmail.com> wrote:
> Dennis,
>
> I use gtk-recordmydesktop to do the screencasts, running Sugar at
> 800x600 on an IBM NetVista I bought surplus.  I then use Kino to edit.
>  You *might* be able to get a screencast at a higher resolution with a
> more powerful box, but the video would end up at 640x480 anyway so
> maybe that would not be an improvement.  I'd be interested in your
> opinion of my videos at
>
> http://people.sugarlabs.org/jdsimmons/
>
> I use Fedora 11 for recording the desktop and Fedora 10 for editing
> (not on purpose, that's just how I'm set up at the moment).  I needed
> to compile Kino from source.  There's another video editor called
> Cinelerra that I would also have to compile from source to use, and
> it's supposed to be pretty good.
>
> James Simmons
>
> On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 10:56 AM, Dennis Daniels<dennisgdaniels at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Jim,
>> Fair enough! You are echoing what most everyone on the IRC has said as well.
>>
>> I'm going to dive into running Sugar on top of Ubuntu today on my
>> fairly powerful machine and see if I can get some decent recordings.
>> Sugar needs a face and preferably that face would be of a six year old
>> doing amazing/genious things with a computer but those screencasts
>> probably won't happen with SoaS. I'm hoping I can get that with a full
>> install of Ubuntu with Sugar on the top.
>>
>> All my efforts with SoaS, avec et sans screencasting, have been
>> _disappointing_. There's no way I can recommend SoaS to any but the
>> most hardened technophile teachers.
>>
>> with regards,
>> Dennis
>>
>> lost and found:
>> +15047567321
>> +18586833669
>> GoogleTalk: dennisgdaniels
>> skype : dennisdaniels
>>
>>
>>
>> EOF
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 5, 2009 at 10:46, Jim Simmons<nicestep at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Dennis,
>>>
>>> I think screencasting is a neat idea but the hardware most likely to
>>> run Sugar won't have the horsepower to capture a full size screen and
>>> in the case of the XO might not have enough disk space to do it
>>> either.  See my other emails for my experiences making videos like
>>> this.
>>>
>>> It may do a lot of good for us to create these kinds of videos
>>> ourselves so kids can see them and share them with friends, but
>>> technically it may be impractical to build a feature for doing this
>>> into Sugar.
>>>
>>> James Simmons
>>>
>>>
>>>> I need help in getting Sugar to be cool for kids and the easiest way
>>>> _in my experience_ is to make it easy for kids to show off... make
>>>> screencasting a FUNCTIONING and EASY to USE tool that can be launched
>>>> from every activity.
>>>>
>>>> Please, if you're going to flame back, try to attack the argument (and
>>>> parts of it may be flawed) and not me.
>>>>
>>>> thanks,
>>>> Dennis
>>>
>>
>