[Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Sugar on Fedora looking forward

Kalpa Welivitigoda callkalpa at gmail.com
Wed Jul 11 10:26:21 EDT 2018

Hi all,
On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 9:18 PM Chihurumnaya Ibiam
<ibiamchihurumnaya at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Peter,
> 1) Clock and Record have been ported to gst1.0
> 2) There are quite a number of activities that have/are being ported to gtk3 and more will follow.

I saw some PRs to port activities to gtk3, but not sure whether we
make a release once the porting is done. If we can make a release
(where applicable), we can continue to package for Fedora.

btw, https://apps.fedoraproject.org/packages/s/sugar-* is the list of
sugar activities we package as of today.

> 4) There's an ongoing port of the sugar gtk3 toolkit to python3 and it'll get to other parts of sugar soon.
> I'd love to assist, but that'll be once i get Fedora up and running.
> --
> Ibiam Chihurumnaya <ibiamchihurumnaya at gmail.com>
> On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 9:35 AM, Peter Robinson <pbrobinson at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hello All,
>> This is intended to ask questions and seek feedback.
>> I've not really had time to deal with Sugar for some time, but it also
>> doesn't tend to take up a lot of time so it's not been a major
>> problem, we glue it together when it breaks etc.
>> Kalpa has done a good job keeping most of the Activities up to date.
>> But there's a number of things that are getting to the point where
>> they'll need action or they'll break so I'd like to gather details
>> from the Sugar community what their plans are here to see if it's
>> worthwhile continuing the Fedora support of Sugar.
>> 1) gstreamer 1.0 support in Activies. The 0.10 series is well and
>> truly dead and unmaintained, but there's a couple of key Activities
>> that still depend on it. Clock and Record are the two big ones here.
>> Are there any plans to move them to gst1?
>> 2) GTK2 sugar-toolkit, again a number of Activities still haven't
>> moved to gtk3, any plans?
>> 3) eToys, we've not shipped this by default for some time, I plan on
>> retiring it and any of it's dependencies in Fedora 29. Good riddance
>> sugar-presence-service!
>> 4) This is the big one... python2. With python2 being EOL real soon
>> now is there any interest in moving to py3, I know there was some work
>> years ago to do some readiness here with the move to gtk3 but I don't
>> remember the details. Fedora is actively moving to python3 and has
>> been for some years, I think for at least 6 releases it's been
>> possible to run without py2 installed at all. Is this the nail in the
>> coffin for Sugar?
>> Also with my note above about time and the points in between are there
>> still people interested in Sugar on Fedora? Anyone interested enough
>> to assist?
>> Peter
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Best Regards,

Kalpa Welivitigoda

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