[Sugar-devel] Open Street Map

[Christian Stroetmann]

Hi Gonzalo

This paragraph is a little off-topic:
I do not think so that ideas are overvalued. Quite contrary, ideas are 
an essential part of arts and economics and hence of culture. Without 
ideas and their presentations there is no start to discuss and to 
implement something at all. Seen from this point of view, the general 
problem is not how to program, but what to program.

This paragraph is a little on-topic:
Also, the Feature process gives a mandatory protocol, so that in the end 
an idea can be realized/implemented in an ordered way. Despite our 
different point of views about the value of ideas, I think this specific 
protocol is a good way to start things by presenting an idea in the 
first step. After the community decided that an idea is valuable, we can 
talk about the requirement specification and later about its implementation.

In this respect, I say that ideas talk first, codes talk later. ;)

This paragraph is on-topic:
Because I already expected that there is an activity that is able to 
handle OSM data (see also the information given by Gary Martin), I am 
also thinking about a feature that is basically an extension of the 
Neighborhood view or even a fifth view called for example (Sugar) Earth, 
(Sugar) World, (Sugar) Cosmos or (Sugar) Paracosm (see [2]; my favorite 
in conjunction with (creativity and ideas of) children) on top of the 
Neighborhood view. This feature has also to be seen in conjunction with 
the other proposed feature of a ZUI metaphor for Sugar (see the related 
thread started on the 1st of March 2014). Both the fifth view and the 
ZUI fit together perfectly, because often digital globes and digital 
world maps are based on the ZUI metaphor (see [1]).

As it can be seen, this is a larger feature that on the one hand has to 
be discussed by the developers and on the other hand IMO can't be 
implemented as a simple prototype. Said this, I would like to create a 
Feature proposal at first that only describes the idea/concept of the 
fifth view.



Christian

[1] Wikipedia, ZUI; ZUI projects 
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zooming_user_interface
[2] Wikipedia, Paracosm en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paracosm
> Ideas are overvalued :)
> Until something is implemented can't be i the hands of kids.
>
> Gonzalo
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 4:22 PM, Christian Stroetmann 
> <stroetmann at ontolab.com <mailto:stroetmann at ontolab.com>> wrote:
>
>     I waited for such an anser. But the Feature process clearly says
>     that ideas should even be publicated if somebody does not
>     implement it.
>
>     Christian
>
>>     We don't use the Feature process for activities.
>>     I don't think we have a map activity based on OSM,
>>     but we have one using google maps [1]
>>     Probably the best is start to work, and show some prototype,
>>     just start, code talks ;)
>>
>>     Gonzalo
>>
>>     [1] http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4211
>>
>>
>>     On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 3:00 PM, Christian Stroetmann
>>     <stroetmann at ontolab.com <mailto:stroetmann at ontolab.com>> wrote:
>>
>>         Aloha
>>
>>         Today, I wondered if there is already an activity that is
>>         related with the Open Street Map (OSM; [1]).
>>         I search the Wiki of Sugar Labs and the Activities, but got
>>         no results for the search terms open street, openstreet and osm.
>>         Has anybody informations about this?
>>         If there is not such an activity I would like to propose such
>>         an activity as well, because IMO it is definitely a most have.
>>         I even would like to propose it as a feature of Sugar.
>>
>>
>>
>>         Christian Stroetmann
>>
>>

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