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Hi Gonzalo<br>
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This paragraph is a little off-topic:<br>
I do not think so that ideas are overvalued. Quite contrary, ideas
are an essential part of arts and economics and hence of culture.
Without ideas and their presentations there is no start to discuss
and to implement something at all. Seen from this point of view, the
general problem is not how to program, but what to program.<br>
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This paragraph is a little on-topic:<br>
Also, the Feature process gives a mandatory protocol, so that in the
end an idea can be realized/implemented in an ordered way. Despite
our different point of views about the value of ideas, I think this
specific protocol is a good way to start things by presenting an
idea in the first step. After the community decided that an idea is
valuable, we can talk about the requirement specification and later
about its implementation.<br>
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In this respect, I say that ideas talk first, codes talk later. ;)<br>
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This paragraph is on-topic:<br>
Because I already expected that there is an activity that is able to
handle OSM data (see also the information given by Gary Martin), I
am also thinking about a feature that is basically an extension of
the Neighborhood view or even a fifth view called for example
(Sugar) Earth, (Sugar) World, (Sugar) Cosmos or (Sugar) Paracosm
(see [2]; my favorite in conjunction with (creativity and ideas of)
children) on top of the Neighborhood view. This feature has also to
be seen in conjunction with the other proposed feature of a ZUI
metaphor for Sugar (see the related thread started on the 1st of
March 2014). Both the fifth view and the ZUI fit together perfectly,
because often digital globes and digital world maps are based on the
ZUI metaphor (see [1]).<br>
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As it can be seen, this is a larger feature that on the one hand has
to be discussed by the developers and on the other hand IMO can't be
implemented as a simple prototype. Said this, I would like to create
a Feature proposal at first that only describes the idea/concept of
the fifth view.<br>
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Christian<br>
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[1] Wikipedia, ZUI; ZUI projects
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zooming_user_interface<br>
[2] Wikipedia, Paracosm en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paracosm<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Ideas are overvalued :)
<div>Until something is implemented can't be i the hands of
kids.</div>
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<div>Gonzalo </div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 4:22 PM,
Christian Stroetmann <span dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:stroetmann@ontolab.com" target="_blank">stroetmann@ontolab.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> I waited for such an
anser. But the Feature process clearly says that ideas
should even be publicated if somebody does not implement
it.<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
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Christian</font></span>
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<div dir="ltr">We don't use the Feature process for
activities.
<div>I don't think we have a map activity based on
OSM, </div>
<div>but we have one using google maps [1]</div>
<div>Probably the best is start to work, and show
some prototype,</div>
<div>just start, code talks ;)</div>
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<div>Gonzalo</div>
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<div>[1] <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4211"
target="_blank">http://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/addon/4211</a></div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at
3:00 PM, Christian Stroetmann <span dir="ltr"><<a
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href="mailto:stroetmann@ontolab.com"
target="_blank">stroetmann@ontolab.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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solid;padding-left:1ex">Aloha<br>
<br>
Today, I wondered if there is already an
activity that is related with the Open Street
Map (OSM; [1]).<br>
I search the Wiki of Sugar Labs and the
Activities, but got no results for the search
terms open street, openstreet and osm.<br>
Has anybody informations about this?<br>
If there is not such an activity I would like
to propose such an activity as well, because
IMO it is definitely a most have.<br>
I even would like to propose it as a feature
of Sugar.<span><font color="#888888"><br>
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<br>
Christian Stroetmann<br>
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