[Sugar-devel] Dictionary everywhere ?

Tomeu Vizoso tomeu at sugarlabs.org
Mon May 11 04:45:43 EDT 2009


On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 00:06, Sayamindu Dasgupta <sayamindu at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Based on comments raised in this thread and during yesterday's design
> meeting, I have made some changes: video at
> http://people.sugarlabs.org/sayamindu/global_dictionary_second_try.ogv
> In case of multiple selections, the words are no longer in the form of
> a set of hyperlinks, one can choose the dictionary from which the
> definition is to be retrieved and also the definition is made a bit
> more pleasing to the eye (with some really ugly hacks) :)

Could someone take care of relaying this to olpc-sur and asking for
opinions there? And, of course, to other interested communities as
well.

> There were some more interesting ideas yesterday, especially
> Christian's ideas on providing machine-translation for
> sentences/phrases. However, I tried out Apertium, and somehow did not
> like the results. We can probably query Google's translation engine,
> but that would be a proprietary backend and also would require
> internet access.
>
> Some issues that need to be addressed:
>
> 1) Hyperlinking inside the definitions and providing a back button
> (for "See also:" kind of terms). This simply needs some more coding,
> and some ideas on where to put the back button.
>
> 2) Stemming. Some words (eg: hurried) are not in the dictionary. In
> such a case, do we perform some kind of stemming on the word ? This
> does make things more complicated, but it would let us provide more
> definitions.

There are many stemming libraries available, though may not be a
single one that covers all languages we are interested in.

Regards,

Tomeu

> 3) Language detection. I stated in one of the previous mails in this
> thread that this would be difficult, but a friend of mine has been
> working in this area (http://smc.org.in/silpa/Guess_Language), and he
> has achieved some really good results already. If required, we can
> reuse his work.
>
> Thanks,
> Sayamindu
>
>
> On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 5:40 AM, Sayamindu Dasgupta <sayamindu at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hello,
>> I was wondering about having a global "dictionary" key in sugar, just
>> like the view source key. When you select a word (or words), and press
>> that key, a window should pop up, showing the meaning of that word (or
>> those words). There can be a control panel entry to choose what
>> dictionary to use (eg: someone might want to have a English-Spanish
>> dictionary instead of a English-English one, etc).
>> I did a bit of hacking last weekend to come up with a rough mockup for
>> the feature.
>> There's a screencast at
>> http://people.sugarlabs.org/sayamindu/global_dictionary.ogv
>> (it works with all activities, and not just with Browse - and the
>> window pops up when I press the key)
>> Does it make sense for Sugar ? If it does, I think I can beat it into
>> shape over the next few weekends.
>> Thanks,
>> Sayamindu
>>
>>
>> --
>> Sayamindu Dasgupta
>> [http://sayamindu.randomink.org/ramblings]
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Sayamindu Dasgupta
> [http://sayamindu.randomink.org/ramblings]
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