[IAEP] Camp Kit

[Caroline Meeks]

On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 4:07 AM, Tomeu Vizoso <tomeu at sugarlabs.org> wrote:

> Caroline is right in her explanation.
>
> Sugar will first run both telepathy-salut and telepathy-gabble. The
> salut connection manager will use peer-to-peer connections for
> presence and collaboration, doesn't need a server but is limited to
> the local area network.
>
> The gabble connection manager will try to connect to the jabber server
> specified in the control panel and if it succeeds, Sugar will shutdown
> salut and only use gabble. If gabble fails, the salut one keeps
> running.
>
> For 99% of users, presence and collaboration should just work, but
> people setting up the environment like conferences, computer labs,
> etc. should take this behavior into account.


And the UI should somehow make it clearer what is going on.


>
>
> Regards,
>
> Tomeu
>
> On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 03:01, Caroline Meeks <solutiongrove at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> 4. Yesterday, Walter and Caroline noticed that a room full of people
> >> using Sugar's collaboration capabilities from a remote server on a
> >> conference centers network suboptimal.
> >
> > Actually you miss understood me.  Collaboration worked fine I just didn't
> > understand what was going on until the drive home.
> >
> > During the demo it was very odd, different people seemed to see different
> > people and I was confused as to what was happening.
> >
> > The conference center/hotel was one of those places where to access the
> > internet you had to 1. Connect to the wireless hub. 2. Open a browser. 3.
> > Enter username and password.
> >
> > This could be done on SoaS just fine.
> >
> > But some people did not complete all three steps.
> >
> > If you connected to a wireless hub in your neighborhood but didn't go
> throug
> > the process with Browse to connect to the internet then you just saw the
> > other people who also just connected to that wireless hub and didn't
> connect
> > to the internet.
> >
> > Given the internet was incredibly slow, this may well have been a better
> > user experience for Sugar collaboration. I don't have any data about
> that.
> >
> > If I were to do a 50 person Sugar workshop in a random hotel with bad
> > internet connectivity I would bring in a hub or two. Name them different
> > names.  And the workshop could collaborate without ever using the hotel's
> > slow internet.  WIN!
> >
> > If I wanted users to see things on the internet I could info slice them
> > before hand.
> >
> > And as an extra bonus no one could check their email during the workshop.
> >
> > Note, Im not saying we did a serious test of the collaboration.I am just
> > saying that everything seemed to be fine at FOSSVT and that I am intreged
> by
> > the possiblities of local collaboration.
> >>
> >>
> >> What would be the best way to set up a system like this?  As I go back
> >> over the list, it like like I am asking for a School Server on
> >> Steroids:)
> >
> > No, I think  you are asking for a school server the way it is envisioned
> and
> > where it is getting to.  Now that we can have groups of people on Sugar
> > comfortably we are starting to understand why we want and need the school
> > server to work.
> >
> > My last couple of visits to schools, and talks to educators at FOSS VT
> have
> > convinced me that having a local server and caching inside the school is
> > going provide a great deal of value to US Schools.
> >
> > Caroline
> >>
> >>
> >> david
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> >  - Jonas
> >> >
> >> > - --
> >> > * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist og Internet-arkitekt
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> > Caroline Meeks
> > Solution Grove
> > Caroline at SolutionGrove.com
> >
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Caroline Meeks
Solution Grove
Caroline at SolutionGrove.com

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