[Systems] Mailman 3

Martin Abente martin.abente.lahaye at gmail.com
Wed Apr 29 16:23:49 EDT 2015

Thanks Samuel :)

On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 3:46 PM, Bernie Innocenti <bernie at codewiz.org>

> Following up by email because I didn't respond immediately on irc and now
> you're not logged in.
> So, I also expected mm3 to be immature at this point. 1.0 was released a
> few days ago after 7 years of development, and it's also radically
> different from its predecessor (https://lwn.net/Articles/642240/).
> There's no hurry. We can wait a few more months for things to stabilize
> and then give it another try. I think there's value for us: the new web
> interface might help educators and other non-technical people participate
> with the rest of the community.
> Thanks for testing this. Even if it didn't work out, I think it was worth
> trying.
> <scg> I want to report you about my progress with mm3. Off plan, I have
> some bugs after installing mm3 and all its components. I am using released
> packages from the ubuntu 14.04 repositories.
> <scg> I have tested it in all scenarios: with SQLite 3, with PostgreSQL
> (for both mailman and postorius_standalone), with virtual environment for
> python 2.7 and python 3.4, without venv, compiling the sources codes to get
> binaries. I have the same results for all of them.
> <scg> As you might guess, I haven't had the chance to try the migration
> between mm2 and mm3.
> <scg> The idea behind mm3 is good, however, I think that it is still no
> mature for production. Furthermore, I have found some errors/warnings with
> the ORM SQLAlchemy and also with the messages between postorius and the
> mailman client.
> <scg> I can continue working on it and presenting the bug on the project's
> home (launchpad). I have already done it:
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/postorius/+bug/1429086
> <scg> Maybe I am doing something wrong, but for now this it what I've got.
> I couldn't work so much on it anyway. The wedding, the work and the trip
> preparation is killing me. I believe that maybe I have entered in a bad
> moment. But upon returning from my honeymoon I hope to help more to the SL
> team.
> <scg> For now I can promise continue working on this to get a more secure
> result.
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