[Systems] [haakon.eriksen at far.no: Fram - a suggestion for bringing kids to Sugar-programming]

[Haakon Meland Eriksen]

Hello everyone!

If you decide to use Fram, which we use in GNU Telephony, you need to know 
that syntax high-lighting is provided by the excellent SyntaxHighlight_Geshi 
extension, and that the <source> tag is deprecated in favour for 
<syntaxhighlight>. XML uses <source> sometimes, so this avoids conflicts. 
 
The second thing you need to know, is that Fram works well, but it is missing 
some important features. These are planned, and if you are a PHP developer 
with some spare time it shouldn't be difficult to complete. This is outlined at 

http://far.no/fram/fram2.php

Teachers and kids need to know that the code blocks must be in order to 
concatenate correctly - this is one of the short comings the above plan wants 
to fix.

I'm a high school teacher and a bit preoccupied as project coordinator for GNU 
Free Call for the time being, so I will probably not have time to complete the 
missing features for some months.

Yours sincerely,
Haakon Meland Eriksen, Fram



Fredag 24. juni 2011 20.10.19 skrev Aleksey Lim :
> Hi all,
> 
> This is an option that can make wiki.sugarlabs.org more useful, e.g.,
> having powerful tutorials on wiki.sl.o when people can launch activities
> right from the wiki.
> 
> I think we can try it on wiki-devel.sl.o...
> 
> FGrose: any ideas? Are you taking care about -devel instance on
> sunjammer? If not, I can help Haakon with setting up FRAM there.
> 
> 
> ----- Forwarded message from Haakon <haakon.eriksen at far.no> -----
> 
> From: Haakon <haakon.eriksen at far.no>
> Subject: Fram - a suggestion for bringing kids to Sugar-programming
> To: Alsroot <alsroot at member.fsf.org>
> Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 05:02:00 -0500 (EST)
> 
> Hi, Aleksey!
> 
> Have you heard about literal programming? It was a concept introduced by
> the famous Donald E. Knuth. The idea is to write about your intensions,
> then intersperse your explanation with marked code, continue explaning
> what you want to do, add some more code and continue explaining this way
> until you are done. The marked code is then extracted for use by an
> interpreter or for compiliation by the computer. In short, programming is
> considered an act of writing for others.
> 
> A friend of mine, Philippe Teuwen, and I have a small project called
> "Fram", which bacically does literal programming in a wiki. See
> http://far.no/fram/index.php?title=User:Haakon for the pre-history of Fram
> or my "Introduction to Haskell" to see what Fram is about -
> http://far.no/fram/index.php?title=Introduction_to_Haskell
> 
> I was writing to another friend, when it hit me - this is a useful concept
> to introduce into the Sugar environment, because we want to empower Free
> Software users and get children into programming. What if every activity
> was available as an article written in a literal programming way, then the
> child could see what was intended and how this was implemented into code.
> If they have any questions, they can use the Discussion page.
> 
> My e-mail address is haakon.eriksen at far.no if you have any questions.
> 
> Yours sincerely,
> Haakon Meland Eriksen, Drammen, Norway