[Sugar-devel] [GSOC] Proposals for Create new set of activities

Tony Anderson tony at olenepal.org
Thu Apr 4 21:39:53 EDT 2019

Scratch is heavily used in Rwanda. The users do not find the 1.4 version 
as a limitation.

As far as I can see, Music Blocks was not developed as a Sugar Activity. 
A worthwhile first step would be to see if it works in Gnome on an XO. 
This is presumably something a candidate with access to an XO can do to 
show interest and competence. This could provide insight into whether it 
would be feasible or worthwhile to port Music Blocks to Sugar


On 4/5/19 5:59 AM, James Cameron wrote:
> We have 17 draft or final proposals.  Most have also been published on
> sugar-devel@, but not all.  None have addressed the Scratch related
> ideas.
> That's fine.  It's up to the students what they want to work on.  We
> gave them many ideas.  If Scratch were so important, we would have
> given them less ideas.
> I don't think there's anything terribly wrong with the ideas that
> mention Scratch.  Port Sugarizer activities to Sugar has the most
> detailed description;
> https://github.com/sugarlabs/GSoC/blob/master/Ideas-2019.md#port-sugarizer-activities-to-sugar
> I do think we are wrong to assume and hope that a student will adopt
> an idea.  If I were a student, I'd note;
> * it's not a new thing, but a port of an existing thing,
> * the technical complexity, or challenge, especially the work that
>    would be required in WebKit to support audio, (Browse, #85),
> * the history of little progress in the code that needs to be
>    maintained,
> * that few of the mentors have made any successful steps toward the
>    goal, and;
> * there's been more hot air (talk) than action (coding),
> I don't think we should be complaining about what students have failed
> to propose.  We should be encouraging instead.
> So to any students out there thinking of a first, second, or third
> proposal, consider "Port Sugarizer activities to Sugar".  ;-)
> On Thu, Apr 04, 2019 at 12:22:48PM +0100, Chihurumnaya Ibiam wrote:
>> I'm happy to see the students bring in their own ideas too, I'm saying these
>> activity ideas are being neglected,
>> as all proposals suggested so far have been pointing towards creating something
>> new, while that's great we also
>> need to improve on what already exists.
>> Although there wasn't a specified number of activities to be created but I
>> don't think creating just one activity would be
>> great as proposals so far are only referring to creating just one new activity,
>> while the idea says a "new set of activities".
>> For Scratch, there's also a mention in the "Port sugarizer activities to Sugar"
>> idea but so far I've not seen a proposal for that.
>> --
>> Ibiam Chihurumnaya
>> [1]ibiamchihurumnaya at gmail.com
>> On Thu, Apr 4, 2019 at 9:18 AM Rahul Bothra <[2]rrbothra at gmail.com> wrote:
>>      Thanks for the suggestion.
>>      I disagree. I am happy to see the students bringing in their own ideas for
>>      activities.
>>      FWIW, we have already mentioned the suggested ideas, as well as the
>>      resources to understand user experience. I would like to give students the
>>      freedom to decide what they want to work on
>>      On Thu, Apr 4, 2019 at 5:55 AM Chihurumnaya Ibiam <[3]
>>      ibiamchihurumnaya at gmail.com> wrote:
>>          Hi Everyone,
>>          I've looked at the proposals for [4]create a new set of activities and
>>          none has addressed any of the activities proposed in the idea, although
>>          the project idea encourages new ideas but I think that we should
>>          clearly state the importance of the ones suggested as they're very
>>          important.
>>          Scratch for one is very important as it's currently widely used and
>>          having it in sugar would mean more users.
>>          I think that the importance of these ideas should be stated and they
>>          shouldn't be neglected as they have.
>>          Issue [5]#63.
>>          --
>>          Ibiam Chihurumnaya
>>          [6]ibiamchihurumnaya at gmail.com
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>> References:
>> [1] mailto:ibiamchihurumnaya at gmail.com
>> [2] mailto:rrbothra at gmail.com
>> [3] mailto:ibiamchihurumnaya at gmail.com
>> [4] https://github.com/sugarlabs/GSoC/blob/master/Ideas-2019.md#create-a-new-set-of-activities
>> [5] https://github.com/sugarlabs/GSoC/issues/63
>> [6] mailto:ibiamchihurumnaya at gmail.com
>> [7] mailto:Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
>> [8] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
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