[Sugar-devel] [GSOC] Proposals for Create new set of activities

[Chihurumnaya Ibiam]

Hi Tony,

No doubt that v1.4 isn't a limitation but v3.0 has more features and it
would be great if that is provided for them too.

On Fri, Apr 5, 2019, 9:52 PM Tony Anderson <tony at olenepal.org> wrote:

> Scratch is heavily used in Rwanda. The users do not find the 1.4 version
> as a limitation.
>
> As far as I can see, Music Blocks was not developed as a Sugar Activity.
> A worthwhile first step would be to see if it works in Gnome on an XO.
> This is presumably something a candidate with access to an XO can do to
> show interest and competence. This could provide insight into whether it
> would be feasible or worthwhile to port Music Blocks to Sugar
>
> Tony
>
>
> On 4/5/19 5:59 AM, James Cameron wrote:
> > We have 17 draft or final proposals.  Most have also been published on
> > sugar-devel@, but not all.  None have addressed the Scratch related
> > ideas.
> >
> > That's fine.  It's up to the students what they want to work on.  We
> > gave them many ideas.  If Scratch were so important, we would have
> > given them less ideas.
> >
> > I don't think there's anything terribly wrong with the ideas that
> > mention Scratch.  Port Sugarizer activities to Sugar has the most
> > detailed description;
> >
> >
> https://github.com/sugarlabs/GSoC/blob/master/Ideas-2019.md#port-sugarizer-activities-to-sugar
> >
> > I do think we are wrong to assume and hope that a student will adopt
> > an idea.  If I were a student, I'd note;
> >
> > * it's not a new thing, but a port of an existing thing,
> >
> > * the technical complexity, or challenge, especially the work that
> >    would be required in WebKit to support audio, (Browse, #85),
> >
> > * the history of little progress in the code that needs to be
> >    maintained,
> >
> > * that few of the mentors have made any successful steps toward the
> >    goal, and;
> >
> > * there's been more hot air (talk) than action (coding),
> >
> > I don't think we should be complaining about what students have failed
> > to propose.  We should be encouraging instead.
> >
> > So to any students out there thinking of a first, second, or third
> > proposal, consider "Port Sugarizer activities to Sugar".  ;-)
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 04, 2019 at 12:22:48PM +0100, Chihurumnaya Ibiam wrote:
> >> I'm happy to see the students bring in their own ideas too, I'm saying
> these
> >> activity ideas are being neglected,
> >> as all proposals suggested so far have been pointing towards creating
> something
> >> new, while that's great we also
> >> need to improve on what already exists.
> >> Although there wasn't a specified number of activities to be created
> but I
> >> don't think creating just one activity would be
> >> great as proposals so far are only referring to creating just one new
> activity,
> >> while the idea says a "new set of activities".
> >> For Scratch, there's also a mention in the "Port sugarizer activities
> to Sugar"
> >> idea but so far I've not seen a proposal for that.
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> Ibiam Chihurumnaya
> >> [1]ibiamchihurumnaya at gmail.com
> >>
> >> On Thu, Apr 4, 2019 at 9:18 AM Rahul Bothra <[2]rrbothra at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>      Thanks for the suggestion.
> >>
> >>      I disagree. I am happy to see the students bringing in their own
> ideas for
> >>      activities.
> >>      FWIW, we have already mentioned the suggested ideas, as well as the
> >>      resources to understand user experience. I would like to give
> students the
> >>      freedom to decide what they want to work on
> >>
> >>      On Thu, Apr 4, 2019 at 5:55 AM Chihurumnaya Ibiam <[3]
> >>      ibiamchihurumnaya at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>          Hi Everyone,
> >>
> >>          I've looked at the proposals for [4]create a new set of
> activities and
> >>          none has addressed any of the activities proposed in the idea,
> although
> >>          the project idea encourages new ideas but I think that we
> should
> >>          clearly state the importance of the ones suggested as they're
> very
> >>          important.
> >>          Scratch for one is very important as it's currently widely
> used and
> >>          having it in sugar would mean more users.
> >>
> >>          I think that the importance of these ideas should be stated
> and they
> >>          shouldn't be neglected as they have.
> >>
> >>          Issue [5]#63.
> >>
> >>          --
> >>
> >>          Ibiam Chihurumnaya
> >>          [6]ibiamchihurumnaya at gmail.com
> >>
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> >> References:
> >>
> >> [1] mailto:ibiamchihurumnaya at gmail.com
> >> [2] mailto:rrbothra at gmail.com
> >> [3] mailto:ibiamchihurumnaya at gmail.com
> >> [4]
> https://github.com/sugarlabs/GSoC/blob/master/Ideas-2019.md#create-a-new-set-of-activities
> >> [5] https://github.com/sugarlabs/GSoC/issues/63
> >> [6] mailto:ibiamchihurumnaya at gmail.com
> >> [7] mailto:Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> >> [8] http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
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