[Sugar-devel] Proposing a communication switch

Walter Bender walter.bender at gmail.com
Sun Feb 18 18:09:27 EST 2018

On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 4:21 PM, D. Joe <sugarlabs at etrumeus.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 07:37:03AM +1100, James Cameron wrote:
> > Slack and Matrix are also popular.
> Since it is several links deep now, I'll surface this point I made in
> similar discussions elsewhere, for Sumit's benefit:
> "Every other option shares IRC's marked disadvantage of not being somebody
> else's favorite thing that a ton of projects use."
> Which is to say, why not Gitter? Because it's not Slack. Why not Slack?
> Because it's not Discord. Why not Discord? Because it's not Gitter. And
> round and round we go, expanding this ring to include as many chat systems
> as you can think of.
> See also previous discussion here:
> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/archive/sugar-devel/2017-September/054825.html
> and here:
> https://github.com/hylang/hy/issues/1357#issuecomment-331543249
> (that latter link is included in the former, too, but as with the quote
> from
> it, I'm unburying it)
> > Gitter has an IRC bridge; does it go both ways?
> This is a great question. Chances are, even if so, not very well.
> I have reluctantly acceded, in some situations, to the establishment of
> bridges between IRC channels and various other, newer, chat systems, mostly
> as a way of possibly helping bring in people already using those chat
> systems.  I say reluctantly, though, because I do not wish to encourage the
> adoption of those proprietary systems, first, and second, because the
> bridges rarely work well.
> My approach is that, if someone wants to try to make one of those bridges
> work, and is willing to put in the time and attention to do it, then I'm OK
> with it. That said "putting in the time and attention to do it" requires a
> level of commitment to making it work and keeping it working we'd probably
> rather see devoted to other things. But if that's what one wishes to do ...
> <*shrug*>.
> This comes up often enough I have an essay draft sitting around about it
> all. For now, I'll just add this one new link I have to give some academic
> context to this discussion:
> https://flosshub.org/content/considering-use-walled-gardens-floss-project-
> communication
> --
> D. Joe
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Well said.

Walter Bender
Sugar Labs
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