[Sugar-devel] [UKids] Re: [Announcement] Sugarizer v0.8 is available for your device

Steve Thomas sthomas1 at gosargon.com
Sun Jan 8 23:03:48 EST 2017

(Resending as lists rejected as too big with stack trace screenshot)

FYI while trying to investigate I saw this about *Chrome Apps support will
be removed*:
*Important:* Chrome will be removing support for Chrome Apps on Windows,
Mac, and Linux. Chrome OS will continue to support Chrome Apps.
Additionally, Chrome and the Web Store will continue to support extensions
on all platforms. Read the announcement
<http://blog.chromium.org/2016/08/from-chrome-apps-to-web.html> and learn
more about migrating your app <https://developers.chrome.com/apps/migration>

I tried the https://squeak.js.org/etoys/#fullscreen  but could not save a
file.   Got an exception:



On Sun, Jan 8, 2017 at 3:39 PM, Bert Freudenberg <bert at freudenbergs.de>

> Hi Steve,
> have you tried plain Etoys on a Chromebook?
> https://squeak.js.org/etoys/#fullscreen
> Also, we have an experimental Chrome app here:
> https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/etoys/pfddkmhbbphp
> elipkocbhmgbofdoagpi
> - Bert -
> On Sat, Jan 7, 2017 at 10:46 PM, Lionel Laské <lionel.laske at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> Hi Steve,
>> Yes, unfortunately EToys could have some limitation because it need to
>> load a full VM to run, it's why it not appear as favorite by default.
>> I'm CC'ed Bert that could help you on it.
>> Regards.
>>       Lionel.
>> 2017-01-06 23:21 GMT+01:00 Steve Thomas <sthomas1 at gosargon.com>:
>>> Okay, I tried restarting Chrome a second time and now Etoys opens on
>>> Mac. But had an issue saving. I'll investigate further.
>>> Hoping to get Etoys (et al) working on Chromebook's so I can get
>>> teachers in my kids school to start using it.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Stephen
>>> On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 5:15 PM, Steve Thomas <sthomas1 at gosargon.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Lionel,
>>>> This is great work, thank you.
>>>> Ran into a few issues trying to run Etoys (Turtle Blocks seems to run
>>>> just fine), :
>>>>    1. Added Chrome extension but Etoys did not run, just got black
>>>>    screen.
>>>>       1. Tried on Mac and Windows using latest Chrome, waited about 5
>>>>       minutes+
>>>>    2. Also downloaded from iTunes onto my Mac and had same issue
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Stephen


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is a building of thought. It is costless to build, weightless, growing
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