[Sugar-devel] Fwd: Re: Server-devel Digest, Vol 110, Issue 5

Tony Anderson tony_anderson at usa.net
Wed Aug 24 02:42:40 EDT 2016

This thread somehow got separated from iaep and Sugar_dev. Sorry.


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Subject: 	Re: Server-devel Digest, Vol 110, Issue 5
Date: 	Wed, 24 Aug 2016 08:28:41 +0200
From: 	Tony Anderson <tony_anderson at usa.net>
To: 	server-devel at lists.laptop.org, IAEP SugarLabs 
<iaep at lists.sugarlabs.org>

Sugar Labs develops and supports Sugar. The goal of Sugar is to improve
the educational experience of its school age users. For the vast
majority of Sugar users who have limited or no access to the internet,
the school server is a vital and integral element of the improved

I understand your immediate concern is to register voters for 2017
election cycle, but the real question is how can Sugar work better with
a school server. XSCE has taken the responsibility for development of
the school server from OLPC. It is sad but true that XSCE deployments
are increasingly divorced from Sugar - largely because Sugar is viewed
as limited to the XO and because XO's are de facto unavailable for
deployment (except as recylcled).

What we should be asking is why our early users are now apparently
moving away from Sugar. Could it be because we take no interest in their
needs? Is Plan Ceibal still based on Sugar? What aspects of Sugar has it
found valuable and what limitations has it found? What about Rwanda?
What about Peru? What about Paraguay?


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>     1. Re: Is XSCE a Sugar Labs project? (Anish Mangal)
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> From: Anish Mangal <anishmg at umich.edu>
> To: Dave Crossland <dave at lab6.com>
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> I cannot say about SL membership but the XSCE does certainly cater to
> non-sugar audiences. Most of the XSCE deployments in India I know of are
> non sugar based. That said, a lot of XSCE deployments also use sugar and
> olpc laptops. Recent builds of XSCE also contain sugarizer, and the
> software certainly has components which support sugar/olpc laptops like
> jabber, moodle integration, journal backup, sugar stats (xovis)
> Hope this helps.
> On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 5:13 PM, Dave Crossland <dave at lab6.com> wrote:
>> Hi
>> In http://www.mail-archive.com/iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org/msg17326.html
>> Caryl Bigenho <caryl at laptop.org> asked me to ask you all if you consider
>> XSCE a Sugar Labs project.
>> I'm assuming the answer is "no" but I was asked to confirm :)
>> As a follow up question, is anyone contributing to XSCE _not_ a members of
>> Sugar Labs?
>> I see Adam Holt, George Hunt, Tim Moody, and Anish Mangal are already
>> members; Jerry is not.
>> Jerry, would you like to be a SL member?
>> Would anyone else?
>> --
>> Cheers
>> Dave
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