[Sugar-devel] [Marketing] Sugar all-hands meeting

Gonzalo Odiard gonzalo at laptop.org
Wed May 27 09:05:41 EDT 2015

All are good questions.
Some replies below.

On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 4:29 PM, Samuel Greenfeld <samuel at greenfeld.org>

> Looking at past minutes, I think I am proposing more of a change in
> procedure than topics for the oversight meeting.  We need to get more
> people involved than are present in the IRC meetings.

I don't see how changing the communication media used for the meeting
will get more people involved. In particular audio/video chat is worst than
when there are more people. But I agree we need more people in the meetings.

> In general I am echoing what was said on the "Planning for the Future"
> email thread from three months ago.
> But some topics (for the oversight meeting or an all-hands meeting) would
> be:
>    1. What can Sugar publicly commit to having in terms of
>    users/developers/finances/etc. beyond what was mentioned in the deployment
>    survey.
>    Witness Dan's complaints over the 3 million number, James noting no
>    one filed a bug report for Sugar 0.105.1 yet, the lack of candidates for
>    past elections, the lack of interaction between the XS development and
>    Sugar development communities, etc.
>    It also would be useful to know what users/developers/etc. could
>    publicly commit to Sugar.
When we talked about the deployments survey, someone proposed make a survey
in the community too.
I think that would be a good idea. We need know who is active and what can
And think in the community globally, not only developers. We need testers,
deployers, teachers,
infrastructure people, translators, write documentation, improve our web
space, marketing, etc.

>    1. What is being done to address the main issues raised by deployments
>    in the latest development survey.
Still nothing. We received replies from 3 more deployments, then I will
update the summary and release a version 1.1
We also prepared a thank you reply email for who replied to the survey, and
I started to send it.

>    1. A complete holistic overhaul of how releases are done and
>    marketed.  Sugar was originally created with a "if you build it, they will
>    come" approach that many community members have at least privately
>    complained about.
>    We need real-world examples of how to integrate Sugar with
>    curriculums, reference deployments willing to speak with prospective ones,
>    etc.
>    Setting up Sugar needs to be no harder than a child using it for the
>    first time.
Good points, we need find a way to set priorities and find the resources
(even if is volunteer time)
to make them a reality.

>    1. What is being done to attract new deployments, developers (besides
>    GSoC) and project sponsors.
>    2. I would like to propose a "Sugar Ambassador" program similar to the
>    Fedora one where less-technical members of the community could engage with
>    other groups to figure out what they would need to use Sugar.  This does
>    not necessarily mean that we need to fly them everywhere; but it would give
>    us a good idea of what might be required to obtain gain certain types of
>    deployments.
Did you think about run for a seat in the SLOB?



> On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Walter Bender <walter.bender at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> The next Sugar Labs oversight board meeting is on Monday. Anyone in the
>> community is, as always, welcome to suggest discussion topics.
>> -walter
>> On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 1:28 PM, Samuel Greenfeld <samuel at greenfeld.org>
>> wrote:
>>> I know there have been various board and development meetings for Sugar.
>>> But I would like to propose having an "all-hands" meeting where anyone
>>> in the Sugar community as well as related groups (deployments,
>>> schoolserver, etc.) could raise a topic and attend.
>>> If there are few enough people, we might be able to do this with a
>>> Google Hangout.  For larger crowds we should try to get permission to use
>>> an international conference bridge (to avoid a dozen echo cancelers getting
>>> confused by each other).
>>> There are a lot of things that need to be done that I suspect could
>>> happen given a wider audience.
>>> ---
>>> SJG
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>> --
>> Walter Bender
>> Sugar Labs
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