[Sugar-devel] GSoC projects

[Sean DALY]

Yes, of course, which is why my idea was to get assistance. To be clear,
I'm in favor of whatever solution could ease installation. Choosing a
keyboard layout from scratch can be quite tricky for the uninitiated, the
Virtualbox list is long with many variants (
https://straymarcs.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/8.-select-keyboard.png)
although an autodetect button is available. If the teacher or journalist
has to configure language and keyboard a second time when booting the VM as
you mention, that qualifies as jumping through hoops. My goal was to work
with Oracle on a bundled installer+VM executable (which requires a matrix
by host OS in any case) to make the install as seamless as possible. I cite
Firefox because they propose a pancake button installer by probing the
website client (or analyzing the user agent, or whatever they do), with the
full matrix only 1 click away.

Sean


On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 2:06 AM, Gonzalo Odiard <godiard at sugarlabs.org>
wrote:

> We can ask language and keyboard in the first boot as we do with age and
> gender.
> I think create and maintain a complete matrix of VMs will be more
> difficult.
>
> Gonzalo
>
> On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 7:39 PM, Sean DALY <sdaly.be at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> We need to do everything possible to reduce Sugar's installation and
>> unfamiliarity barriers. Not everyone speaks English and can find and
>> configure the Sugar control panel on their first encounter with Sugar. A
>> keyboard mismatched with what appears on the screen merely gives the
>> impression it doesn't work right. VM hosts could have a number of different
>> keyboards - for example I have a Macbook with French locale Azerty layout
>>  (flipped numbers row, common accents) and a Dell education netbook with
>> Belgium locale keyboard. Look at the Firefox "Systems & Languages" download
>> matrix (https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/all/), for a Sugar VM with
>> bundled installer an interested teacher or journalist would just need to
>> choose the appropriate download.
>>
>> I feel the huge sizes of these images would be more of a problem, but not
>> much we can do there.
>>
>> Sean
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 9:35 PM, Gonzalo Odiard <godiard at sugarlabs.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> > My idea at the time was to approach Oracle for corporate sponsorship
>>> > of Virtualbox images, in particular hosting a workflow to automate
>>> > prebuilt images by host language/keyboard, however some community
>>> > members were aghast at the idea.
>>>
>>> Is still needed have a vm by host language/keyboard?
>>> Or we can ask to the user using the same code from the Sugar control
>>> panel?
>>>
>>> Gonzalo
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 5:18 PM, James Cameron <quozl at laptop.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 06:26:34PM +0100, Sean DALY wrote:
>>>> > My idea at the time was to approach Oracle for corporate sponsorship
>>>> > of Virtualbox images, in particular hosting a workflow to automate
>>>> > prebuilt images by host language/keyboard, however some community
>>>> > members were aghast at the idea.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe now is a better time.  Maybe those aghast at the idea haven't
>>>> noticed yet.  ;-)
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> James Cameron
>>>> http://quozl.linux.org.au/
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Gonzalo Odiard
>>>
>>> SugarLabs - Software for children learning
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Gonzalo Odiard
>
> SugarLabs - Software for children learning
>
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