[Sugar-devel] GSoC projects

[Iain Brown Douglas]

Hi Sean,

Is it a thing that you would contemplate now, to approach Oracle (for
corporate sponsorship, perhaps) but  in particular about what support
they would offer Sugarlabs towards our targets?

Would there be a view against this idea?

Regards,

Iain

On Sat, 2015-03-21 at 11:37 +0100, Sean DALY wrote:
> Yes, of course, which is why my idea was to get assistance. To be
> clear, I'm in favor of whatever solution could ease installation.
> Choosing a keyboard layout from scratch can be quite tricky for the
> uninitiated, the Virtualbox list is long with many variants
> (https://straymarcs.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/8.-select-keyboard.png) although an autodetect button is available. If the teacher or journalist has to configure language and keyboard a second time when booting the VM as you mention, that qualifies as jumping through hoops. My goal was to work with Oracle on a bundled installer+VM executable (which requires a matrix by host OS in any case) to make the install as seamless as possible. I cite Firefox because they propose a pancake button installer by probing the website client (or analyzing the user agent, or whatever they do), with the full matrix only 1 click away.
> 
> 
> Sean
> 
> 
> 
> On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 2:06 AM, Gonzalo Odiard
> <godiard at sugarlabs.org> wrote:
>         We can ask language and keyboard in the first boot as we do
>         with age and gender.
>         I think create and maintain a complete matrix of VMs will be
>         more difficult.
>         
>         
>         Gonzalo 
>         
>         On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 7:39 PM, Sean DALY
>         <sdaly.be at gmail.com> wrote:
>                 We need to do everything possible to reduce Sugar's
>                 installation and unfamiliarity barriers. Not everyone
>                 speaks English and can find and configure the Sugar
>                 control panel on their first encounter with Sugar. A
>                 keyboard mismatched with what appears on the screen
>                 merely gives the impression it doesn't work right. VM
>                 hosts could have a number of different keyboards - for
>                 example I have a Macbook with French locale Azerty
>                 layout
>                 
>                  (flipped numbers row, common accents) and a Dell
>                 education netbook with Belgium locale keyboard. Look
>                 at the Firefox "Systems & Languages" download matrix
>                 (https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/all/), for a
>                 Sugar VM with bundled installer an interested teacher
>                 or journalist would just need to choose the
>                 appropriate download.
>                 
>                 
>                 I feel the huge sizes of these images would be more of
>                 a problem, but not much we can do there.
>                 
>                 
>                 Sean
>                 
>                 
>                 
>                 On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 9:35 PM, Gonzalo Odiard
>                 <godiard at sugarlabs.org> wrote:
>                         > My idea at the time was to approach Oracle
>                         for corporate sponsorship
>                         > of Virtualbox images, in particular hosting
>                         a workflow to automate
>                         > prebuilt images by host language/keyboard,
>                         however some community
>                         > members were aghast at the idea.
>                         
>                         
>                         Is still needed have a vm by host
>                         language/keyboard?
>                         Or we can ask to the user using the same code
>                         from the Sugar control panel?
>                         
>                         
>                         Gonzalo
>                         
>                         
>                         
>                         
>                         
>                         On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 5:18 PM, James Cameron
>                         <quozl at laptop.org> wrote:
>                                 On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 06:26:34PM
>                                 +0100, Sean DALY wrote:
>                                 > My idea at the time was to approach
>                                 Oracle for corporate sponsorship
>                                 > of Virtualbox images, in particular
>                                 hosting a workflow to automate
>                                 > prebuilt images by host
>                                 language/keyboard, however some
>                                 community
>                                 > members were aghast at the idea.
>                                 
>                                 Maybe now is a better time.  Maybe
>                                 those aghast at the idea haven't
>                                 noticed yet.  ;-)
>                                 
>                                 --
>                                 James Cameron
>                                 http://quozl.linux.org.au/
>                                 
>                         
>                         
>                         
>                         
>                         -- 
>                         Gonzalo Odiard
>                         
>                         SugarLabs - Software for children learning 
>                         
>                 
>                 
>         
>         
>         
>         
>         -- 
>         Gonzalo Odiard
>         
>         SugarLabs - Software for children learning 
>         
> 
> 
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