[Sugar-devel] Subject: Re: Regarding JS collaboration project

[Tony Anderson]

Hi,

It sounds like the school server should be the node server.

Does this proposed implementation support python sugar activities?

Tony

On 03/09/2014 07:32 AM, sugar-devel-request at lists.sugarlabs.org wrote:
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> Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2014 12:12:56 +0100
> From: Daniel Narvaez<dwnarvaez at gmail.com>
> To: Prasoon Shukla<prasoon92.iitr at gmail.com>
> Cc: Sugar-dev Devel<sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org>,	Sam Parkinson
> 	<sam.parkinson3 at gmail.com>, Emil Dudev<emildudev at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] Regarding JS collaboration project
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> If I remember correctly Emil also agreed that the new framework should be
> independent from telepathy at some point and even worked on it.
>
>
> On 9 March 2014 06:45, Prasoon Shukla<prasoon92.iitr at gmail.com>  wrote:
>
>> >Hi Sam. Sorry for the late response but I was occupied with academics.
>> >
>> >Anyway, I need to bother you again with some questions.
>> >
>> >So, I went through the thread by Emil Dudev and read the arguments he made
>> >in favour of not using the mozilla node server and using telepathy instead.
>> >To that, dnarvaez said that using the node server might be a better idea
>> >since the current protocol is very unstable.
>> >
>> >Now, I am somewhat familiar with sugar codebase but certainly not enough
>> >to actually discuss the merits or demerits of either of these approaches
>> >(although personally, I like better the idea of all communication happening
>> >over websocket via a node server). So, the final decision on which approach
>> >to take will be in the hands of those more experienced. But as I said
>> >before, I would prefer it if we use the websocket protocol to have this
>> >kind of architecture:
>> >
>> >|Sugar Web Activity|  <----->|Sugar Shell|
>> >    \
>> >     \
>> >  websocket
>> >       \
>> >|Node Server|
>> >        /
>> >       /
>> >      /
>> >|Sugar Web Activity|  <----->|Sugar Shell|
>> >
>> >instead of the usual telepathy based communication. This I would like
>> >because:
>> >1. We'll be able to use the mozilla server with modifications as needed.
>> >2. We'll be able to use the*huge*  node.js ecosystem for realtime
>> >communication in any way we want! And, websocket is very versatile -  we
>> >can send pretty much any binary data over the network.
>> >
>> >Also, I've worked with node before and found the communication to be quite
>> >reliable (which it is not with the current XMPP based protocol, if I
>> >understood dnarvaez correctly). That said, I've only tested out my node
>> >based work with a handful of people, so...
>> >
>> >The only downside is the need to have a node server running. For the case
>> >when there is not internet connectivity, I think we can make a set of
>> >scripts that can be called to run a node server on the one of the machines,
>> >say that of the teacher, and all others will connect to it. And of course,
>> >this process needs to be simple.
>> >
>> >Anyway, it just seems right to me to augment JS activities with a JS based
>> >collaboration framework. But of course, I don't really know the details all
>> >too well to be making the decision here.
>> >
>> >So, can you please comment on this? Once this decision is made, I can
>> >start working on my application.
>> >
>> >Thanks

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