<html> <head> <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type"> </head> <body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hi, It sounds like the school server should be the node server. Does this proposed implementation support python sugar activities? Tony On 03/09/2014 07:32 AM, <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:sugar-devel-request@lists.sugarlabs.org">sugar-devel-request@lists.sugarlabs.org</a> wrote: </div> <blockquote cite="mid:mailman.19202.1394364774.2580.sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org" type="cite"> <pre wrap="">Message: 4 Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2014 12:12:56 +0100 From: Daniel Narvaez <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:dwnarvaez@gmail.com"><dwnarvaez@gmail.com></a> To: Prasoon Shukla <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:prasoon92.iitr@gmail.com"><prasoon92.iitr@gmail.com></a> Cc: Sugar-dev Devel <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org"><sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org></a>, Sam Parkinson <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:sam.parkinson3@gmail.com"><sam.parkinson3@gmail.com></a>, Emil Dudev <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:emildudev@gmail.com"><emildudev@gmail.com></a> Subject: Re: [Sugar-devel] Regarding JS collaboration project Message-ID: <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:CANTHhva+dF2iHcGof2L5QmbO3XhFSUUxuUKHGfyhTqovHw4A1Q@mail.gmail.com"><CANTHhva+dF2iHcGof2L5QmbO3XhFSUUxuUKHGfyhTqovHw4A1Q@mail.gmail.com></a> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" If I remember correctly Emil also agreed that the new framework should be independent from telepathy at some point and even worked on it. On 9 March 2014 06:45, Prasoon Shukla <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:prasoon92.iitr@gmail.com"><prasoon92.iitr@gmail.com></a> wrote: </pre> <blockquote type="cite" style="color: #000000;"> <pre wrap="">> Hi Sam. Sorry for the late response but I was occupied with academics. > > Anyway, I need to bother you again with some questions. > > So, I went through the thread by Emil Dudev and read the arguments he made > in favour of not using the mozilla node server and using telepathy instead. > To that, dnarvaez said that using the node server might be a better idea > since the current protocol is very unstable. > > Now, I am somewhat familiar with sugar codebase but certainly not enough > to actually discuss the merits or demerits of either of these approaches > (although personally, I like better the idea of all communication happening > over websocket via a node server). So, the final decision on which approach > to take will be in the hands of those more experienced. But as I said > before, I would prefer it if we use the websocket protocol to have this > kind of architecture: > > <code class="moz-txt-verticalline">|Sugar Web Activity|</code> <-----> <code class="moz-txt-verticalline">|Sugar Shell|</code> > \ > \ > websocket > \ > <code class="moz-txt-verticalline">|Node Server|</code> > / > / > / > <code class="moz-txt-verticalline">|Sugar Web Activity|</code> <-----> <code class="moz-txt-verticalline">|Sugar Shell|</code> > > instead of the usual telepathy based communication. This I would like > because: > 1. We'll be able to use the mozilla server with modifications as needed. > 2. We'll be able to use the *huge* node.js ecosystem for realtime > communication in any way we want! And, websocket is very versatile - we > can send pretty much any binary data over the network. > > Also, I've worked with node before and found the communication to be quite > reliable (which it is not with the current XMPP based protocol, if I > understood dnarvaez correctly). That said, I've only tested out my node > based work with a handful of people, so... > > The only downside is the need to have a node server running. For the case > when there is not internet connectivity, I think we can make a set of > scripts that can be called to run a node server on the one of the machines, > say that of the teacher, and all others will connect to it. And of course, > this process needs to be simple. > > Anyway, it just seems right to me to augment JS activities with a JS based > collaboration framework. But of course, I don't really know the details all > too well to be making the decision here. > > So, can you please comment on this? Once this decision is made, I can > start working on my application. > > Thanks </pre> </blockquote> </blockquote> </body> </html>