[Sugar-devel] [SoaS] Plans for SoaS v9

Edward Mokurai Cherlin mokurai at sugarlabs.org
Fri Mar 22 17:09:18 EDT 2013

On Fri, March 22, 2013 12:19 pm, Peter Robinson wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Martin Abente
> <martin.abente.lahaye at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 10:37 AM, Peter Robinson <pbrobinson at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 12:59 PM, Peter Robinson <pbrobinson at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > Hi All,
>>> >
>>> > I'm trying to get a little bit more organised for this cycle than I
>>> > have been over the last couple.
>>> >
>>> > The plans for SoaS v9 are going to be somewhat simple. We're going to
>>> > stick with the 0.98.x release of Sugar and focusing on polish.

Where can we find these plans?

I see that the SoaS pages on the Sugar Labs Wiki are seriously out of
date, referring to

Version 7 http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Soas

Version 4 http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_on_a_Stick_QA

Release 1 http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Running_Linux_Applications_Under_Sugar

No version number given, but dated 2010

V5 for MacBook, Version 7 http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Downloads

The Fedora Spins page doesn't say what version of SoaS it is offering at all.

Also, the Wiki fails to document release 0.98. It is out, according to


But it is not listed for any platform at


Separately from that, the Sweets repository for Ubuntu doesn't seem to exist.


Nor does the Ubuntu Sugar Team page.

I would take that up with the Ubuntu Sugar Team if I could find it.
^_^ Sugar on Ubuntu is severely broken. Most activities fail to start.
None of it should have been released in that state.


lists this page


which the Wiki says does not and has never existed.

>>> > I would like to see more people testing and using it during the dev
>>> > cycle so I don't get the "My Activity is broken" post release or five
>>> > minutes before release when we're generating final images and pushing
>>> > them out to the Fedora mirrors.

I would be delighted to help.

>>> > I would also like to remove sugar-presence-service but that would
>>> mean
>>> > either dropping eToys or the developers stepping up to actually fix
>>> > the dependency that they've only been promising to do for 2 or so
>>> > years.

Who in particular?

>>> > Is there anything in particular that people would like to contribute
>>> > during this cycle? Anything I can help someone achieve? Does anyone
>>> > want to dig into the documentation on the web site to improve the
>>> > process?

If I had the information, I would be glad to add it to the Wiki on the
appropriate pages.

>>> > I'd also love marketing to get involved since we've not had any
>>> > publicity for a number of releases and after all Walter was telling
>>> me
>>> > some time back that it's the biggest single driver in the wiki.
>>> >
>>> > Finally there's a Test Compose for the alpha available in the
>>> > following link. I've used it briefly in a VM and it boots and seems
>>> to
>>> > mostly work.
>>> >
>>> > http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/19-Alpha-TC1/Live/
>>> I forget to mention for this cycle we'll also produce SoaS images to
>>> run on a number of ARM platforms. The first test of these should
>>> arrive around F-19 Beta.
>> +1 for Raspberry-Pi :)
> It won't be for Raspberry Pi. The armv5tel was dropped for Fedora 19.
> It will be supportable but that's through a different effort that I've
> not got the time to be involved with. It will worth with around 20 odd
> ARM devices including a new soon to be announced device that will cost
> almost the same as a RPi and be a lot more powerful.

Can we get a Wiki page listing them, or an external link, and can we
talk about testing SoaS on them _all_? If I could get funded to buy
one of each and set up a modest test station with proper storage,
power, and work area and all relevant ARM SoaS versions actually on
sticks, I might volunteer to do that in between writing OERs and
recruiting others to do so.

> Peter

Edward Mokurai (默雷/निशब्दगर्ज/نشبدگرج) Cherlin
Silent Thunder is my name, and Children are my nation.
The Cosmos is my dwelling place, the Truth my destination.

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