[Sugar-devel] Fw: [Csnd] Default Scons build and backward compatibility (Csound/Fedora15)

[Peter Robinson]

Hey Art,

AWESOME on the csound.

On the Activities I've encountered similar results.

Cheers,
Peter

On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 8:56 PM, Art Hunkins <abhunkin at uncg.edu> wrote:

>  Peter -
>
> Great news - your new Csound modules work *perfectly*.
>
> FWIW, "perfectly" includes not only the crucial "old-parser" default, but
> also MIDI and multiple-controller MIDI. (I hadn't suspected problems with
> these latter two items, but thought I'd mention them anyway.)
>
> In any case, my Csound-based activities run fine now without modification,
> and the new Fedora 15 SoaS release will be backwardly compatible as far as
> Csound (and Csound-python) is concerned.
>
> BTW, I've a little hint about the "activities not opening" phenomenon.
> Though often (usually?) they do not open the first time they are selected,
> if they are selected *again* immediately, they always do open. (Or so it
> seems.)
>
> Thanks again for all your help and forbearance with Csound.
>
> Art Hunkins
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Peter Robinson <pbrobinson at gmail.com>
> *To:* Art Hunkins <abhunkin at uncg.edu>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 15, 2011 3:09 AM
> *Subject:* Re: Fw: [Csnd] Default Scons build and backward compatibility
>
> easiest will be
>
> "rpm -Uvh
> http://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/packages/csound/5.13.0/5.fc15/i686/csound-5.13.0-5.fc15.i686.rpm
> http://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/packages/csound/5.13.0/5.fc15/i686/csound-python-5.13.0-5.fc15.i686.rpm
> "
>
> Peter
>
> On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 4:51 AM, Art Hunkins <abhunkin at uncg.edu> wrote:
>
>>  Thanks, Peter.
>>
>> I'll try this out tomorrow.
>>
>> Do I upgrade simply with:
>> yum upgrade csound
>> ?
>>
>> Art Hunkins
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----h
>> *From:* Peter Robinson <pbrobinson at gmail.com>
>> *To:* Art Hunkins <abhunkin at uncg.edu>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 14, 2011 7:06 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: Fw: [Csnd] Default Scons build and backward compatibility
>>
>> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/csound-5.13.0-5.fc15
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 10:42 PM, Peter Robinson <pbrobinson at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hmm. We'll see how we get on. Build csound-5.13.0-5.fc15 will have the
>>> change in it. It will be submitted as an update shortly.
>>>
>>> Peter
>>>
>>>  On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 9:52 PM, Art Hunkins <abhunkin at uncg.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Peter,
>>>>
>>>> FYI (another response). Felipe is the Debian maintainer for Csound. He's
>>>> quite active and knowledgeable about Csound (and has followed it over a
>>>> period of time), FWIW.
>>>> bmity
>>>>
>>>> Art Hunkins
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Felipe Sateler" <fsateler at gmail.com>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> To: <csound at lists.bath.ac.uk>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 4:32 PM
>>>>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Csnd] Default Scons build and backward compatibility
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I agree with most of your comments but...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 13:02, Art Hunkins <abhunkin at uncg.edu> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Everyone knows I'm a Windows person, and normally wouldn't be affected
>>>>> by such largely "Linux issues." However, I am involved with the
>>>>> Fedora-based
>>>>> Sugar-on-a-Stick project. A new release is about to come out, and
>>>>> Csound has
>>>>> been built with default Scons options, resulting in its being
>>>>> incompatible
>>>>> with the Activities I've written, as well as with all previous
>>>>> Sugar-on-a-Stick releases. This is "a problem that shouldn't be".
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This is really a problem that shouldn't be, but not for the reasons
>>>> you argue. The csound maintainer in fedora should be specifying all
>>>> the features he wants and disabling all that he doesn't. Leaving the
>>>> build script to do whatever it feels like is wrong.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> At the very least, the default Scons script should indicate clearly the
>>>>> meaning of each option, and *in giant red letters/flags* (or the
>>>>> equivalent)
>>>>> indicate experimental and untested features. Then by all means, make a
>>>>> safe
>>>>> and compatible default build.
>>>>>
>>>>> Am I way off base? Please let me know what I'm missing.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This is my opinion only, but relying on defaults is the wrong way to
>>>> build software.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Saludos,
>>>> Felipe Sateler
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Send bugs reports to the Sourceforge bug tracker
>>>>           https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=81968&atid=564599
>>>> Discussions of bugs and features can be posted here
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>>>> "unsubscribe csound"
>>>>
>>>> =
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
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