[Sugar-devel] Content bundles

[forster at ozonline.com.au]

Thanks S Page
That was very helpful
I have logged it as bug #2388
Tony

> On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 10:44 PM,  <forster at ozonline.com.au> wrote:
> 
> > I have created a Pippy program to map sea surface temperature.
> >
> > http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/User:Tonyforster#Sea_Surface_Temperature_Mapping
> >
> > Because I wanted to distribute two files as one compressed download and also because wiki.sugarlabs does not host *.py files, I decided to try a *.xol content bundle. It also seemed like a good opportunity to learn about bundles.
> 
> > I am running OS373pyg
> >
> > I created a bundle http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/File:Sst.xol
> >
> > It turned out to be complex, not simple. Issues that arose were:
> >
> > It seems that you can not remove a content bundle once you install it. Even deleting it in Terminal still leaves the menu in Browse.
> 
> Depends how you install it.  http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Collections
> says 'In the Journal, navigate to the entry for the download of the
> .xol bundle, hover over it, and choose Erase. When you view the "OLPC
> Library" page in Browse, the content should be gone from the library
> navigation.'  Removing from ~/Library certainly won't trigger the
> rebuild of the home page library navigation.  There are other ways
> removal can fail, e.g. SL bug 2283 "You can't remove Library content
> installed from a .xol on USB flash drive".
> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Creating_a_collection#How_do_you_uninstall_a_collection.3F
> tells you how to rebuild the library navigation manually.
> 
> > Opening the bundle starts a redundant empty write session.
> I don't know what you mean, it didn't for me in 10.1.2 on XO-1.
> 
> > Both of the files *.asc and *.py needed a right click to save them, left click just opens a viewer, yes I understand why
> >
> > *.py files save to the journal as text/plain and Pippy will not open text/plain, they need to be copied from Write to Pippy
> In that case, why not left-click to open each file in Browse (it shows
> their content as text), and copy from Browse (Ctrl-A, Ctrl-C) into
> Pippy?
> 
> BTW, the index.html tells me to Keep Link, but there' s no such
> command in Browse v.108 , I just see Download link.  That doesn't seem
> to create a Journal entry, instead I think it leads to a Browse
> Traceback from downloadmanager.save_link().
> 
> > The net result is a very complicated user experience. I just wanted to download and uncompress two files as a single download. Am I missing something simple?
> 
> http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Creating_a_collection says, "Materials in a
> collection that need to be run by an Activity other than Browse will
> have to have a mime-type registered with the Browse activity so they
> can launch from there."  I have no idea how to do this, that passive
> voice is useless!  Pippy v.35 registers for the mime types
> text/x-python and pickle/groupthink-pippy , Browse v.108's
> activity.info doesn't mention either mime type.
> 
> Even if you could get Browse to associate your files with Pippy, I
> don't think it would help.  Well over a year ago there was discussion
> of directly launching applications by clicking on their files from
> Browse, as I recall there were Rainbow security issues and concerns
> about displacing the Journal.  I don't think Browse can do this.
> 
> If Sugar/the Journal actually associated a file extension with Pippy
> the Journal might open your files directly in Pippy.  I can't see a
> file extension for pickle/groupthink-pippy.
> 
> Collections are very browser-centric.  You could work with the browser
> by converting your program from Python to JavaScript and present it in
> a local web page that runs a JavaScript developer environment in the
> browser.
> 
> I hope this helps, I'm just a user who has figured out a little about
> collections.
> --
> =S Page
> 
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