[Sugar-devel] Mailman's admin and archive interfaces are horrible - suggest GroupServer.org

Jonas Smedegaard dr at jones.dk
Tue Oct 26 10:33:11 EDT 2010

On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 04:13:42PM +0200, Bert Freudenberg wrote:
>On 26.10.2010, at 11:14, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
>> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 09:56:05PM -0400, Luke Faraone wrote:
>>> On 10/17/2010 07:15 PM, Tim McNamara wrote:
>>>> I'm assuming the infrastructure team are part of this list.
>>> We are, sorry for the long reply time.
>>>> The archives are easily searchable, attached files are converted to 
>>>> links to the server so that people's inboxes are not flooded.
>>> Removing inline attachments may break PGP/MIME, (although I haven't 
>>> checked) and some people consider being able to read a message 
>>> offline in its entirety a feature. I hope that behavior is 
>>> configurable.
>>>> I welcome any feedback. I think that a migration like this will 
>>>> make the mailing lists far more accessible as a knowledge archive. 
>>>> I've been assured that there is a migration path from mailman[4]. 
>>>> From what I know of Dan, its lead developer, it should be fairly 
>>>> easy & reliable.
>>> I'll take a look at it. For it to be seriously considered, a mailman 
>>> path would be needed. The linked tweet notwithstanding, I've not 
>>> seen any documentation on such a migration.
>> You might want to consider sympa too: https://www.sympa.org/
>> It has strong support for PGP/MIME, and a nice default web interface.
>For easier participation, a system that had a seamless forums interface 
>would be great. Unfortunately I have not found one that works well, 

Yeah, I think I share your interest here.

Years back I was in love with http://pessoal.org/papercut/ but sadly 
that haven't been maintained.  Also, my experimentation with it revealed 
that webforum users tend to use a different writing style, especially 
regarding quoting, which makes the marriage a mess for both email and 
webforum lovers.

Sympa provides a seemingly nice web interface, usable also for users 
(i.e. not only an admin interface), including posting from web (i.e. not 
only archival).

I have not yet played much with sympa myself - have fought with 
packaging it for Debian for a couple of years, though.  The recent 6.x 
releases seem pretty mature (no longer needs heavy patching which is 
what consumed much of my packaging time earlier on).

  - Jonas

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