[Sugar-devel] coping with the traffic in sugar-devel

Gary Martin garycmartin at googlemail.com
Tue Oct 5 12:01:01 EDT 2010

On 5 Oct 2010, at 12:05, Bernie Innocenti wrote:

> On Tue, 2010-10-05 at 11:19 +0200, Tomeu Vizoso wrote:
>> What about marking in some way those incoming emails that belong to a
>> thread that has included the word 'bernie'?
> That's really hard... Procmail, my email sorting software, is stateless.
>> There's also the option of just going through the subjects, read the
>> threads that look interesting then marking all of them as read when
>> finished.
> That's better, but it adds delay: I open my mailing list folders to
> check for new mail only once in a while, when I'm done with everything
> else.
>> I'm starting a new thread about this because I often hear from people
>> who have missed important developments because cannot cope with the
>> traffic.
>> I'm also on way more lists that I can read, but with a bit of
>> automatic labelling and organization I think I manage to miss little
>> of the relevant info.
>> Any other tips?

Just mucking around with a quick hack, how about this? It's a SOM for the month of Sept of every email from iaep, dextrose, and sugar-devel that mentioned "bernie" (including emails from bernie). That's about ~1171 emails filtered down to ~171 that mentioned "bernie" and mapped. I dialled up the number of top features from the usual 200 terms to 400 for a little more textual depth:


And just for comparison and so I'm not picking on Bernie, here's the same thing for "gary":


I could do this for any keyword (the more unique the better), so it would be easy to perhaps map "etoys" or some other term a summary map might be of interest, also easy to include more mail-lists into the data set.


> Cc'ing people conservatively is standard practice on many high-traffic
> lists. Today the old arguments of wasted bandwidth are just ridiculous.
> Occasionally someone complains for receiving dupes, but all modern MUAs
> provide ways to suppress them. Sascha elegantly solved the issue by
> setting the "Mail-followup-to" header to exclude himself from replies
> (if the remote MUA supports it).
> -- 
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