[Sugar-devel] Fedora Sugar Meeting Minutes 31/12/2009

[Sebastian Dziallas]

Hi Wade,

thanks a lot for sharing your concerns that openly! I've dropped a few 
comments inline...

Wade Brainerd wrote:
> Hi Sebastian,
>
> I'm concerned that you guys are planning to require activity authors
> to package their activities in Fedora, in order to see them shipped in
> SoaS.  Is this the case?

We're not going to require anybody doing anything - and certainly not in 
the current state. Creating RPMs from activities is at the moment still 
too complicated - which is why we're working at making it easier.

As you say below yourself, even tarballs don't get created by some 
authors. So it wouldn't even be possible to ask people to install 
Fedora, read lots of documents, create random .spec files and run 
spurious commands (exaggeration intended).

So. That's also why we're doing this as a Fedora / Sugar effort and 
we're sending this to fedora-olpc and sugar-devel: People from Fedora 
could get easily into contributing to Sugar by helping out with 
packaging and probably doing more things on their favorite activity. And 
Sugar folks might be interested in doing some distro work, too.

> Currently SoaS pulls a predefined list of activities from ASLO.

This is true.

> I think requiring Fedora packaging would be too much extra work
> activity authors.  If you look at the packaged versions on
> download.sugarlabs.org, many are out of date from their ASLO
> equivalents.

That's true, too. But it means that even just running one additional 
command doesn't get done by some authors.

> Also, will you still allow packages from rpmfusion?  These are
> currently required to make VirtualBox Guest Additions work.

I don't think this should be a blocker for us. From what I know, the 
VirtualBox Guest Additions are not in Fedora because they ship a kernel 
module and Fedora doesn't permit the inclusion of kernel modules.

Anyway, what I'm basically saying is just that moving work we're doing 
anyway (as SoaS, a distributor) upstream is a good thing.

> Best,
> Wade

Cheers,
--Sebastian

> On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Sebastian Dziallas<sebastian at when.com>  wrote:
>> This is it. First meeting after some time, quite some folks joined.
>>
>> Thanks to all those who dropped by! Here are the minutes and logs:
>>
>> http://meeting.olpcorps.net/fedora-olpc/fedora-olpc.minutes.20091231_1013.html
>>
>> http://meeting.olpcorps.net/fedora-olpc/fedora-olpc.log.20091231_1013.html
>>
>> Next date is the Sugar Packaging Session on Jan 6, 1500 UTC [1] - if
>> you're interested in learning how to package, join us!
>>
>> --Sebastian
>>
>> [1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Classroom#Upcoming_Classes
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sugar-devel mailing list
>> Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
>> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel
>>
> _______________________________________________
> Sugar-devel mailing list
> Sugar-devel at lists.sugarlabs.org
> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel