[Sugar-devel] Journal --- Sugar-Developers meeting REMINDER (2 July, 2009 - 14.00 (UTC)) --- irc.freenode.net, #sugar-meeting

Aleksey Lim alsroot at member.fsf.org
Fri Jul 3 14:05:31 EDT 2009

On Fri, Jul 03, 2009 at 01:29:56PM -0400, Eben Eliason wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 10:42 AM, Gary C Martin<gary at garycmartin.com> wrote:
> > On 2 Jul 2009, at 14:47, Eben Eliason wrote:
> >>
> >> On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 1:42 PM, Aleksey Lim<alsroot at member.fsf.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> But in that case we should provide possibility to mark objects that can
> >>> be shared(I guess sharing all local objects by default is not a nice
> >>> idea).
> >>
> >> Right. This would be essential. There's definitely some thought that
> >> needs to be done here.
> >>
> >> Scott had an interesting proposal which basically exposed the Journal
> >> (or some subset of it) as an RSS feed. This was really neat, because
> >> it meant we could build a UI for someone else's Journal in Sugar,
> >> populating it with that data, but also that these feeds could be
> >> shared globally, for anyone with an RSS reader to benefit from. That's
> >> a really powerful approach in my mind, and there is some starter code
> >> lying around as a proof of concept already!
> >
> >
> > +1 to rss feed concept, makes life a lot easier in a heterogeneous
> > environment.
> >
> > I'm still catching up on email so apologies if this has been mentioned
> > already. But the UI for marking of entries as sharable does not necessarily
> > need to be another Journal user-interface addition** In the simplest
> > approach you could just extend the Activity "Share with: my Neighbourhood"
> > control to mark a Journal entry as part of the RRS feed. Would need some
> The problem I see with this is that we're talking about two different
> kinds of sharing. Just because I want to make a picture I drew
> available for anyone to look at, or even make a "photocopy" of to
> scribble on, doesn't mean that I want to let them into a shared
> painting session so they can scribble on the original with me.
> This is the difference between sharing an activity with someone
> collaboratively, and sending them (a copy of) the resulting object.
> > thought on wording, do you add more levels of sharing? Or do you just
> > simplify the "Share with:" language language to "Private", "Share with:
> > Anyone".
> >
> > **though I would like entries to visually show their sharing state, the
> > buddy column hints at this but should be made explicit
> I do actually think that the Journal is the best place to expose this,
> especially since the way we plan to expose the feature in the UI is
> something like "view <my friend>'s Journal." I'm not sure exactly how
> or where that happens. Perhaps if we can abandon the checkbox for the
> multi-selection we can use that space for a public/private toggle of
> some kind.

so, you think that my idea of Pins looks ugly :)


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